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solarz

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supersnoop said:
To a certain extent there is truth to the idea that Traditional culture was better preserved in HK and ROC (ROC, not “Taiwan” as the DPP calls it now).

We have to recognize that the Communist movement was a revolutionary one, supposed to usher in a new era for all people (not just China even). This spirit is famously embodied in the song 沒有共產黨就沒有新中國, emphasis on the New China part. Of course there is also 新話/Xinhua news, etc.

This went further to changing the language to the use of simplified characters and the name to 普通話 (common speech) from 國語 (national language).

Of course as most of us know, the Revolution grew excessively culminating in the Cultural Revolution, which at this point is best recognized as a “two steps forwards, three steps back” situation. Once the country pulled back from that edge, it had to slowly rebuild the cultural consciousness. Hand in hand with the economic growth was reclaiming the mantle of cultural leadership (not coincidentally this is evident in Chinese pop-culture, dominated by Canto-pop in the 90’s, Taiwan Mandopop in the 00’s, and of course mainland acts now).

One interesting news article I read quite a long time ago was how mainland restauranteurs were going to HK, Canada, and the US to get chefs, paying very big bucks. Fine dining being an obvious bourgeoisie pursuit that was obviously discouraged in the early days.

It was only since the reign of CSB that Taiwan has progressively gone down the “full retard” rabbit hole (apologies to those that don’t get the reference). He committed to a policy of de-sinicization which might have made sense if everyone was not speaking and writing Chinese. Now the DPP continues this illogical charade claiming all kinds of nonsense like aboriginal descent or being Japanese. Of course when stupidity reigns, expect stupid results like the above video.

I would say in some ways that progress made is more important than preservation. It is easy to not change vs. create meaningful change. Do you want Taiwan Minister of 76,000 genders or China highest % of female CEOs in the world?

There was a famous case in Canada a few years ago where an Indian family had disowned their daughters in their will even though they took care of them in their twilight years. When the lawyer representing the daughters in the court case was asked if these cases were common (disowning daughters) he said that he only encountered it mostly amongst conservative immigrants from India and HK, but never mainland China.
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You're ignoring the fact that both Taiwan and HK represent only a tiny part of Chinese culture. Only in Mainland China can you find the full breadth and depth of Chinese history and traditions.
 
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This is Russian government statistics how they measure things domestically. i am sure Japan will get different GDP number if Putin is there leader. they have plenty of money to do all the things they want and those things are very big.
They only give extra construction contracts to Turkish/European/Asian builders what is surplus.

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Now you believe government statistics? Didn't you just dismiss Turkish government estimation of the Gas Consumption 2022?

So under what circumstance do you believe these governmental data? Only when they fit your hallucination, perhaps?

You are sure a different doctor can resurrect a dead horse?
 
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I dont know why but i got the feeling that there could be a suprise signing of Power of Siberia 2.

It sure would send a big message, and it would also serve Chinese energy needs for the coming decades.

Win-win. The sticking point is probably the price, but with Biden knocking on his door, Putin might have to take a step back and allow cheap prices
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Oh well..
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Russia and China are preparing many gas agreements to the Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s visit to Beijing, Kremlin Aide Yury Ushakov told reporters, adding that they will become a new step in the expansion of the relationship between the two countries in this area.
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taxiya

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Just some correction and my personal experience.
supersnoop said:
To a certain extent there is truth to the idea that Traditional culture was better preserved in HK and ROC (ROC, not “Taiwan” as the DPP calls it now).
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That is a myth made by people in HK and ROC/Taiwan just to feel their superiority. They preserved something that mainlanders dropped, but they also picked up lots of western staff that mainlanders do not. For example, many of them have themselves addressed by English names even within HK and Taiwan. I don't think a person having this kind of mentality can preserve any traditions in spirit, perhaps some superficials.

supersnoop said:
We have to recognize that the Communist movement was a revolutionary one, supposed to usher in a new era for all people (not just China even). This spirit is famously embodied in the song 沒有共產黨就沒有新中國, emphasis on the New China part. Of course there is also 新話/Xinhua news, etc.

This went further to changing the language to the use of simplified characters and the name to 普通話 (common speech) from 國語 (national language).
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It is 新华／新華, meaning "New China". I guess it was a typo.

Regarding simplified characters. It is an outright lie by ROC government, namely Chiang Kaishek. Simplified Chinese characters were first introduced by ROC in mainland in 1935. See the order from ROC Education Ministry. ROC was not able to fully implement it due to the wars. When PRC was established and began to implement it, Chiang Kaishek wanted to maintain a significant difference, so ROC abandoned simplified characters and began the lie of it preserving Chinese culture.
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国语 (national speech) is unacceptable because it makes Standard Mandarin above any other Chinese dialects and any other minority languages in a multi-national state. Standard Mandarin is a speech to facilitate convenience of communication, but should not carry any more meanings than that. I also don't see why a naming change(due to politics) would affect its underlying culture.
supersnoop said:
One interesting news article I read quite a long time ago was how mainland restauranteurs were going to HK, Canada, and the US to get chefs, paying very big bucks. Fine dining being an obvious bourgeoisie pursuit that was obviously discouraged in the early days.
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That is very strange, I don't know who in mainland China would actually enjoy that. But tell you experiences from all my friends from mainland, when we go to any Chinese restaurants abroad, we only pick the restaurant that has mainland chef. More than that, if we want Sichuan food, the chef has to be from Sichuan, or Shanghai chef for Shanghai food.
 
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