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Bellum_Romanum

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The butthurt is strong in this fp article
The americans middle east policy has brought nothing but death, destructions and humanitarian catastrophe, now finally the middle east seen a world power coming not with guns and jdams but money and development

"On the face of it, Beijing claims to be taking the region on a path to economic recovery and is building infrastructure in exchange for oil and gas. In reality, it has extended its diplomatic outreach and marched forth on a much more insidious project—backing regional dictators and authoritarians to grant them credibility and, in turn, seeking legitimacy for its own one-party authoritative regime"

As if the us never support any dictators in the world lmao

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What do you expect from a woman that works for NED. She worked for Voice of America propaganda network.
 

Overbom

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People like pmc and other such nationalists who underestimate Japan and S.Korea really make me laugh at their ignorance.

We are talking about innovation and industrial powerhouses here. Yes, I mock Japan for a lot of things but I will never mock it for lacking innovative capacity and industrial power.
It has its quirks with its culture and dinosaur bureaucracy but its innovative products are top top world class.

It might be uncomfortable to admit, but i wish that China could sometime in the future reach Japan's level while also avoiding the disadvantages of Japan's economy+society.

As for S.Korea, underestimate it at your own peril. Their people are slaving away, but their technology is world-class and increasingly becoming world-leading. Especially for emerging technologies, S.Korea is often 3rd in the world behind China and the US in their development. It truly is a masterclass in innovation


Russia and its people have much to learn from these countries and they shouldn't be dismissing them because they wrongly believe that they are the same countries as 50 years ago.

Every country has its own strengths and weaknesses.
As for Japan and S.Korea, I will keep mocking and criticising them for a lot of things, but never for their technology and industry. Poorer countries would do well in closely studying them
 
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BoraTas

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The west LOVES TO REWRITE HISTORY to suit their PROPAGANDA and then loves to project their FAILINGS, EXCESS, KILLINGS to another country or countries that goes against their prescribed DOGMA.
Nowadays they love talking about the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact. Let's forget the absurd terms of the Versailles basically opening doors to a radical, let's forget Anglo-German Naval Agreement, Munich conference, continuous sanctions on the Soviet Union starting with 1917, support of right wingers throughout Europe against communism (which Hitler also benefited from). There is an incredible historical revision going on right now.
 

4Runner

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This is a news report from Nov. 2021.

I post it not because I think its interesting, but to bring to light something that's missing:

According to this article, the US was going to announce 5-10 projects that they will invest in with their B3W project. They would do this in January.

They did not do so.

This is a failure. This is the US not keeping their word. While I'm sure many, many excuses can be made, at the end of the day, they did not keep their word.

This is more significant than it seems, folks. As the saying goes, "losers make excuses, winners just win".
Please fix the roads and bridges in my neighborhood first.
 

supercat

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People like pmc and other such nationalists who underestimate Japan and S.Korea really make me laugh at their ignorance.
At least in the auto industry, one of the most important industries in Japan and South Korea, China is catching up fast because of the EV revolution.

On the other hand, China still far ahead in nature science research compared to Japan and South Korean, as indicated by Nature Index:
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In other news:
China to help Argentina build new nuclear power plant
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Argentina to strike USD-35bn infra financing deal with China - report
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AssassinsMace

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See the West has an illusion of being rich. Everything cost more to do in the West and then they have to pick one or the other to fund money shows how they aren't as rich in reality. The US didn't give these countries money before China's rise because they saw them as strategically worthless. The only thing that has changed is China is there and they're going to spend billions upon billions just to counter China in hopes of getting countries to be loyal to the West? That means more money every year to keep these countries loyal but then I just posted that article where the US expects already allies to accept no new and better access to the US market but at the same time they cannot do business with China and make no money. You have these new countries feeding off the American teat but are they expected to get no milk? The new theme of Republicans to stop Biden's plans is to claim it helps China when it has nothing to do with China. This one it really helps China because the West will be paying for infrastructure that China doesn't have to bother with and yet they will still want to business with China because the US doesn't have the milk.
 
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emblem21

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People like pmc and other such nationalists who underestimate Japan and S.Korea really make me laugh at their ignorance.

We are talking about innovation and industrial powerhouses here. Yes, I mock Japan for a lot of things but I will never mock it for lacking innovative capacity and industrial power.
It has its quirks with its culture and dinosaur bureaucracy but its innovative products are top top world class.

It might be uncomfortable to admit, but i wish that China could sometime in the future reach Japan's level while also avoiding the disadvantages of Japan's economy+society.

As for S.Korea, underestimate it at your own peril. Their people are slaving away, but their technology is world-class and increasingly becoming world-leading. Especially for emerging technologies, S.Korea is often 3rd in the world behind China and the US in their development. It truly is a masterclass in innovation


Russia and its people have much to learn from these countries and they shouldn't be dismissing them because they wrongly believe that they are the same countries as 50 years ago.

Every country has its own strengths and weaknesses.
As for Japan and S.Korea, I will keep mocking and criticising them for a lot of things, but never for their technology and industry. Poorer countries would do well in closely studying them
China's technology has caught up and will eventually exceed even the best that Japan and Sth Korea have to offer but their is one fact that cannot be ignored. That one fact is that both of these nations are nations that are not only technologically advanced, but still capable of innovation as it can be heard on the news. At least compared to the USA which I am increasingly finding it quite hard to find any real innovation happening there that does rely on coasting on there previous achievements.
I am confident that Japan and Sth Korea can still innovate which will make China more and more willing to continue development to stay on top. Hence having Sth Korea and Japan around can continue to push China to achieve greater and greater heights just like having Russia around will spur China achieve greater and greater innovation in the military field. However we must come to the conclusion that the USA, unless they drop all of there lust for war and filling the pockets of the military, I cannot see a future where China (when the USA does collapses in on itself) will want to even bother trading with the USA and instead will cease all contact with the nation when the dollar is not only useless, but cannot be traded for any resources in the USA, thus making a decoupling an imperative for not only China but also Sth Korea and Japan because at that moment, both nations can do better then being boot lickers of the USA.
 

ansy1968

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See the West has an illusion of being rich. Everything cost more to do in the West and then they have to pick one or the other to fund money shows how they aren't as rich in reality. The US didn't give these countries money before China's rise because they saw them as strategically worthless. The only thing that has changed is China is there and they're going to spend billions upon billions just to counter China in hopes of getting countries to be loyal to the West? That means more money every year to keep these countries loyal but then I just posted that article where the US expects already allies to accept no new and better access to the US market but at the same time they cannot do business with China and make no money. You have these new countries feeding off the American teat but are they expected to get no milk? The new theme of Republicans to stop Biden's plans is to claim it helps China when it has nothing to do with China. This one it really helps China because the West will be paying for infrastructure that China doesn't have to bother with and yet they will still want to business with China because the US doesn't have the milk.
@AssassinsMace Sir for us in the Global South , the Rise of China is a heaven sent cause now we have the courage to dare the West to follow up their Promises of economic development. Before they are our only source of investment and the term is so onerous, it's a slave contract and most of those approve loans are for Extraction industries.
 

SanWenYu

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Please fix the roads and bridges in my neighborhood first.
This.

China has never wanted to be the sole source of investment in infrastructures around the global. Since its inception, BRI is an open challenge for the developed countries to match up. The West, the US in particular, actually laughed at China for daring to dream up such ambitious plan. Now they feel threatened and want to compete.

It will actually be good news to China when the West start putting their money where their mouth is.

For China, the aim of BRI is not the small potatoes from building and running the infrastructures. The real money will come from the new markets that are connected by roads, ports, power grids and phone towers, the new markets where hundreds of millions of Africans, South Americans and Asians start working in factories in their own countries, for themselves.
 
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