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Taiwan should destroy chip infrastructure if China invades: paper​


NEW YORK -- In the most-downloaded paper published by the U.S. Army War College in 2021, two American scholars propose a Taiwan deterrence strategy to render the island so "unwantable" that it would make no logical sense for China to seize it by force.

One key recommendation is for the U.S. and Taiwan to threaten to destroy facilities of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. -- the world's most important chipmaker and China's most important supplier -- if Beijing invades.
Samsung, based in U.S. ally South Korea, would be the only alternative for cutting-edge designs. If TSMC went offline, "China's high-tech industries would be immobilized at precisely the same time the nation was embroiled in a massive war effort," the authors note. "Even when the formal war ended, the economic costs would persist for years,"
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suggests, adding that such a scenario could hurt the legitimacy of the Chinese Communist Party.

The challenge, the authors argue, is to make such a threat credible. "An automatic mechanism might be designed, which would be triggered once an invasion was confirmed," they write.

"Despite a huge Chinese effort for a 'Made in China' chip industry, only 6% of semiconductors used in China were produced domestically in 2020," the paper notes.

"Broken Nest: Deterring China from Invading Taiwan" was written by Jared McKinney, chair of the Department of Strategy and Security Studies at the eSchool of Graduate Professional Military Education, Air University, and Peter Harris, associate professor of political science at Colorado State University. The views do not necessarily represent those of Air University or the U.S. Air Force, McKinney said.

China has responded strongly to the report. On Dec. 23, the website of the Chinese State Council's Taiwan Affairs Office posted an article noting that "the mainland's pursuit of cross-strait reunification is definitely not for TSMC."
The controversial approach stems from an acknowledgement that traditional deterrence strategies -- such as forward-deploying American warships in Taiwan's vicinity -- may not be enough to discourage Beijing from taking action in the Taiwan Strait.

The People's Liberation Army's goal for a successful invasion was 14 hours, a Chinese analyst with connections in the PLA Navy told the authors. The U.S. and Japan, meanwhile, would need 24 hours to respond, according to a PLA projection cited in the paper.

"If this scenario is close to being accurate, China's government might well be inclined to attempt a fait accompli as soon as it is confident in its relative capabilities," McKinney and Harris write.
While ensuring that key chip-producing facilities do not fall into Beijing's hands, the U.S. and allies could also form contingency plans to quickly evacuate highly skilled Taiwanese working in this sector and give them refuge, the paper proposes.

The authors acknowledge that this "scorched-earth" strategy will be unappealing to the Taiwanese. But the costs "will be far less devastating to the people of Taiwan than the U.S. threat of great power war, which would see massive and prolonged fighting in, above, and beside Taiwan," they continue.

McKinney told Nikkei Asia that the plan brings the economic instruments of power into the deterrence argument and that it offers "an alternative to fighting a great power war at a location 5,000 miles west of Hawaii, a prohibitively difficult proposition."

Harris said: "If the U.S. and Taiwan wish to deter China from invading, then they should look for means of doing so that do not rely on the threat of U.S. military reprisals. Relying exclusively on military threats is becoming less credible and thus more dangerous."

Meanwhile, the paper proposes making efforts to convince Beijing of the "considerable advantages" to maintaining the status quo.

"Washington must restate in unambiguous terms the status of Taiwan is undetermined, that the United States has no plans to support independent statehood for Taiwan, and it will not seek to shift the status quo using gray-zone tactics that violate the spirit of Sino-American rapprochement," the authors write.

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Just wanted to pile onto this garbage analysis with everyone else.

1. The biggest winner if TSMC disappeared tomorrow is not “American ally South Korean corporation Samsung”, it would be INTEL.
Samsung process is garbage and has well documented heat issues
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2. The “highly skilled” Taiwanese were already evacuating themselves to PRC at a rate that alarmed Dear Leader Veggie so much as to create laws to confine them to Juche Island.

3. It is the US that is already weaponizing economics, whereas China actually opened up in recent times to the delight of Tesla investors.

4. “Grey zone warfare” is just a new label made up in 2020 to give the impression of China being aggressive, when these things have been happening without a death for decades.
 

AssassinsMace

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HKer in US here. I voted for Obama and Biden. Most HK-Americans vote Democrat. Ignore those crazy US flag waving people in HK, those are IDIOTS and CIA paid-shills or brainwashed on US propaganda.

Ironically, my parents (also HKer in US) voted for Obama and then for Trump. Ostensibly because of Trump's hardline on China. Guess what Dad? China is a SuperPower and Hong Kong is part of China. And US ain't going to do shit about it. Unfortunately, Dad watches too many anti-China Youtuber shows.
I meant more of the activists since they use "Hong Kongers" to make that distinction. I do that just like how they brand anyone who considers themselves Chinese as less than them. If they don't like that then don't do it themselves.
 

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The irony is she's a Jew and the same thing she accuses that Asians just suck up to the elitist can be said of her. She just doesn't think the American right are the elitists in power. The Democrats are more likely to follow right-wing Republican foreign policy than the other way around. Look at China. The US's China policy is all about defending white supremacy in the world.

When I first read what was accused of her, I thought she was talking about East Asians. East Asians aren't political and the ones that do take a position usually but-kiss the right-wing while hating their own. How does a right-winger have a problem with that? Look at Hong Kongers and how they blindly defend the US right-wing. But she was talking about Indians. They do tend to be more political but just like East Asians, they suck up to the right as well. She's a hypocrite because some of things she said such as more likely to be woke, could and has been accused of larger minority groups in the US. Because she was talking to an African-American host, she spewed out the same nonsense but towards another group because she was being woke afraid of the criticism. Asians more likely to adopt American woke policies of Democrats are a problem? The irony is that she just won't come out and say it that she's just anti-immigration. The whole woke thing is just the latest way of how they try to turn some old into something new. The Republicans are being woke because they say they hate the CCP instead saying "Chinese" because it will make them look racist and they know that's a problem for the right when getting their message out. I bet any Chinese that don't blindly follow them are considered communists. That's how they worm their way around from being called racist. The right-wing hate political correctness because it prevents what they think is the truth from being said. Here, they're afraid of just speaking the truth because that will detract even sympathizers that don't want to be known as racists. That is the very definition of things they claim not to like.
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There's levels to discrimination in the west= AMERICA/CANADA in particular. The professor being a member of a minority group herself which is a far more influential, and powerful group will more than likely be safe from her position since it can be argued that her comments have strong intellectual resonance amongst all groups of people in the U.S. and even amongst Asians themselves. Some of whom are more than happy to fight to stay in front of their fellow Asians to get ahead and be recognized as not that "type" of Asian a.k.a. Chinese loving See See Pee.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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HKer in US here. I voted for Obama and Biden. Most HK-Americans vote Democrat. Ignore those crazy US flag waving people in HK, those are IDIOTS and CIA paid-shills or brainwashed on US propaganda.

Ironically, my parents (also HKer in US) voted for Obama and then for Trump. Ostensibly because of Trump's hardline on China. Guess what Dad? China is a SuperPower and Hong Kong is part of China. And US ain't going to do shit about it. Unfortunately, Dad watches too many anti-China Youtuber shows.
Man, I feel you. My cousin's mother who's of Filipino descent is a big time right-wing Republican. She used to be a left leaning person when she lived in Canada but her politics and views became intertwined with her conversion to evangelical Christianity and becoming an American. She willingly spews all the right wing talking points and has no qualms of seeing the irony from her idiotic comments when she's not even close to looking white lol...some Filipinos have been hit in the heads for too long that they have began to convince themselves of their supposed "Spanish" lineage.

Some Asians have been or are afflicted with Stockholm syndrome. They have forever embraced the superiority of the white race and everything good that happened in this world came from the enlightened white western world.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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HKer in US here. I voted for Obama and Biden. Most HK-Americans vote Democrat. Ignore those crazy US flag waving people in HK, those are IDIOTS and CIA paid-shills or brainwashed on US propaganda.

Ironically, my parents (also HKer in US) voted for Obama and then for Trump. Ostensibly because of Trump's hardline on China. Guess what Dad? China is a SuperPower and Hong Kong is part of China. And US ain't going to do shit about it. Unfortunately, Dad watches too many anti-China Youtuber shows.
I don't know what I would do if I had a Dad that would spew the same vile anti-China shtick. That'll be an interesting dynamic and situation for anyone to be in that's for sure. Hope you and the rest of your family, your Dad included had a pleasant New Year.
 

Xizor

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HKer in US here. I voted for Obama and Biden. Most HK-Americans vote Democrat. Ignore those crazy US flag waving people in HK, those are IDIOTS and CIA paid-shills or brainwashed on US propaganda.

Ironically, my parents (also HKer in US) voted for Obama and then for Trump. Ostensibly because of Trump's hardline on China. Guess what Dad? China is a SuperPower and Hong Kong is part of China. And US ain't going to do shit about it. Unfortunately, Dad watches too many anti-China Youtuber shows.
The HK rioters had a strategy. It was to preach to the "white saviour" senses of the right wing americans. They rightly evaluated the American right as the biggest chance in triggering "harsh" sanctions and even a military confrontation/ trade blockade etc that would bring the Chinese government to the table. Everything short of war was on table as they believed in Trump's and the republican's aggression ( which is really just racism and capacity to do evil as a majority class on the immediate minority).

It was an poor strategy.
 

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The irony is she's a Jew and the same thing she accuses that Asians just suck up to the elitist can be said of her. She just doesn't think the American right are the elitists in power. The Democrats are more likely to follow right-wing Republican foreign policy than the other way around. Look at China. The US's China policy is all about defending white supremacy in the world.

When I first read what was accused of her, I thought she was talking about East Asians. East Asians aren't political and the ones that do take a position usually but-kiss the right-wing while hating their own. How does a right-winger have a problem with that? Look at Hong Kongers and how they blindly defend the US right-wing. But she was talking about Indians. They do tend to be more political but just like East Asians, they suck up to the right as well. She's a hypocrite because some of things she said such as more likely to be woke, could and has been accused of larger minority groups in the US. Because she was talking to an African-American host, she spewed out the same nonsense but towards another group because she was being woke afraid of the criticism. Asians more likely to adopt American woke policies of Democrats are a problem? The irony is that she just won't come out and say it that she's just anti-immigration. The whole woke thing is just the latest way of how they try to turn some old into something new. The Republicans are being woke because they say they hate the CCP instead saying "Chinese" because it will make them look racist and they know that's a problem for the right when getting their message out. I bet any Chinese that don't blindly follow them are considered communists. That's how they worm their way around from being called racist. The right-wing hate political correctness because it prevents what they think is the truth from being said. Here, they're afraid of just speaking the truth because that will detract even sympathizers that don't want to be known as racists. That is the very definition of things they claim not to like.
If my memory serves me right, Amy Wax is sometimes brought up in circles that shill for Ben Shapiro.

She is likely laying the groundwork for her own future "career" by preaching to the Judeo-Christian subset of the right wing in US. As the chances of Trump 2024 increases evermore and as further mainstreaming of far right happens, a person like her can really hit the jackpot. Her credentials as an academic scholar / lecturer can come in real handy in a right leaning world that has notable lack of learned brains.
 

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If my memory serves me right, Amy Wax is sometimes brought up in circles that shill for Ben Shapiro.

She is likely laying the groundwork for her own future "career" by preaching to the Judeo-Christian subset of the right wing in US. As the chances of Trump 2024 increases evermore and as further mainstreaming of far right happens, a person like her can really hit the jackpot. Her credentials as an academic scholar / lecturer can come in real handy in a right leaning world that has notable lack of learned brains.

Not really, she's just a scummy wannabe White nationalist Jew. Her argument isn't even against Asians particularly, she just hates anyone that isn't "White".

Here's another beauty from her:

"Embracing... cultural distance nationalism, means in effect taking the position that our country will be better off with more whites and fewer non-whites."
 

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I remember reading after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Eastern European countries resented China because the West outsourced to China and not them when China was communist. Am I surprised when an Eastern European country has a problem with China? No. Am I surprised there are a lot of white supremacist skinhead groups in Eastern Europe? No, and the two probably have a lot to do with one another.
East Europeans were given visa free travel and infrastructure aid. but this alone is not enough to do high tech research and have control of financial markets/budgets to fund startups or create industrial champions. I even doubt there are any resident stock billionaires in Eastern EU.
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Xizor

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Not really, she's just a scummy wannabe White nationalist Jew. Her argument isn't even against Asians particularly, she just hates anyone that isn't "White".

Here's another beauty from her:

"Embracing... cultural distance nationalism, means in effect taking the position that our country will be better off with more whites and fewer non-whites."
I disagree. There is a reason for everything that Humans do. She isn't above that. She preaches individualism and republican libertarianism. She might also be an Ayn Rand thumper. All this means she must exert her individual effort in creating and grabbing opportunities that come her way. She is trying to script her own success.

If you look up her wiki, this isn't the first incidence of her being under controversy's pleasing grasp. She is slowly trying to gain fame by uttering such statements. Of course, she has no qualms about throwing minorities under the bus or attacking them.
 
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