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Overbom

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Ridiculous. If it was built illegally it should be confiscated by the government and given to people.

Just for this decision, Xi Jinping should be taken down. The capital invested here is worth more than Xi govervance. There was a similar decision made in Beijing, it was about the houses.
Lol what does Xi has do with this? Do you think Xi is some kind of supercomputer who supervises millions of such decisions daily?...
This is clearly a local government problem

How can you build such a huge island with so many buildings with an investment of billions of dollars and nobody noticing that you don't have a permit ... (hint: its corruption all the way down)

Instead of blaming Xi, you should direct your anger to the hidden interest groups + local governments who resist reforms.
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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It was Xi's policy to clean the environment from illegal buildings. You can remember it when Xi was visiting the Xi'an Shaanxi, he saw the building nearby the park and then was angry, a few weeks later the demolition began. Beijing was a repetition of it. Not saying protecting the environment is not important, it is. But there should be a limit to the destruction of capital.

Xi Jinping also has other good policies which I support, e.g. self-sufficiency in semiconductors, but it's going in the direction that there is more bad than good. 160 billion is a ridiculous amount.
 

Xizor

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It was Xi's policy to clean the environment from illegal buildings. You can remember it when Xi was visiting the Xi'an Shaanxi, he saw the building nearby the park and then was angry, a few weeks later the demolition began. Beijing was a repetition of it. Not saying protecting the environment is not important, it is. But there should be a limit to the destruction of capital.

Xi Jinping also has other good policies which I support, e.g. self-sufficiency in semiconductors, but it's going in the direction that there is more bad than good. 160 billion is a ridiculous amount.
Assuming that entirety of 160 Billion would go to waste, I don't think this is a ridiculous amount in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather have thoughtful and intelligent architecture rather than Billion dollar buildings with no soul. The former will realize better quality of experience/life/utilization and generate sustainable growth.

I like Xi's approach. It seem to have certain forward thinking aspects to it. The execution of it is upto local governments and Chinese people themselves.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
It was Xi's policy to clean the environment from illegal buildings. You can remember it when Xi was visiting the Xi'an Shaanxi, he saw the building nearby the park and then was angry, a few weeks later the demolition began. Beijing was a repetition of it. Not saying protecting the environment is not important, it is. But there should be a limit to the destruction of capital.

Xi Jinping also has other good policies which I support, e.g. self-sufficiency in semiconductors, but it's going in the direction that there is more bad than good. 160 billion is a ridiculous amount.
Illegal is illegal. Who allowed these illegal buildings to be constructed? It sure wasn't Xi

These corrupt local governments + local party committee with their incompetent supervising + corrupt companies should all fall to the sword and pay for their corruption. They think that people are blind and idiots

Who believes that such a gigantic investment was done without the local government knowing that it was illegal?...

They should all be thrown into jail so that the rest of corrupt people know that there is 0 tolerance towards corruption. In contrast, a "lost" 160 billion rmb investment is small change for teaching a profound lesson to the whole nation on what happens on illegal buildings.

Make no mistake, countries always get destroyed due to corruption and not on periodically destroying capital for not following the law. Bring in the bulldozers
 

Lnk111229

Junior Member
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I think little bit confused here. And plz bear with me because i also read this article via GG Translate but the things being torn down is just those illegal buldings not whose island. And those bulding definitely is not worth 160 billion. And after that those invester can and should come up with better design.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I was thinking about some things. The French has the French Foreign Legion made up of non French who fights for France.

So, Afghanistan is right now in immense starvation because of US sanctions. Maybe, if China helped and then raised PLAFC (Foreign Comrades) then it'd create a what would become a big asset.

Most of developed world "allies" don't have the grit to fight. But the developing world can be made an asset for China. These people know to kick ass with old creaky AKs the investment per head may be very small.


Doesn't sound too far fetched as China can promise them an escape from hunger and preferential treatment regarding BRI employment opportunities. Ofc, no need to grant citizenship like French.
Why?
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
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It was Xi's policy to clean the environment from illegal buildings. You can remember it when Xi was visiting the Xi'an Shaanxi, he saw the building nearby the park and then was angry, a few weeks later the demolition began. Beijing was a repetition of it. Not saying protecting the environment is not important, it is. But there should be a limit to the destruction of capital.

Xi Jinping also has other good policies which I support, e.g. self-sufficiency in semiconductors, but it's going in the direction that there is more bad than good. 160 billion is a ridiculous amount.
And you think by replacing Xi at the top will do exactly what? Your comment was woefully quixotic and laughably ignorant not to mention your rant is quite telling of your disdain towards Pres. Xi and that's from a fellow that doesn't even live in China.

While am not implying or suggesting that all of us here must be uniform in support of anything China related a different approach on any given issues we find objectionable should and must be presented that invites insightful dscussion and not just opining with provocative declaration that'll simply incite strong emotional reaction.

It would have been enlightening to know why your view(s) on Xi's leadership or lack thereof is the primary requisite in ensuring or curing the problems you raised on your incendiary post. I would like to hear how the change in leadership will bring about or remove the sort of issue(s) that has sent your knicker into a twist.
 

Xizor

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For increasing pressure and expanding the footprint in the Middle East. Taliban is attacking China's CPEC assets in Pakistan and this creates concerns for future expansion of this trade route. Furthermore, a network of connections extending to Levant will help in securing Iraqi/ Iranian oil supply that China gets at preferential rates.
US will be forced to divide attention to Middle East and it's East Asian designs may not deliver.

I am quite concerned for the energy security of China here.
 
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