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I was thinking about some things. The French has the French Foreign Legion made up of non French who fights for France.

So, Afghanistan is right now in immense starvation because of US sanctions. Maybe, if China helped and then raised PLAFC (Foreign Comrades) then it'd create a what would become a big asset.

Most of developed world "allies" don't have the grit to fight. But the developing world can be made an asset for China. These people know to kick ass with old creaky AKs the investment per head may be very small.

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Doesn't sound too far fetched as China can promise them an escape from hunger and preferential treatment regarding BRI employment opportunities. Ofc, no need to grant citizenship like French.

Xsizor said:

I was thinking about some things. The French has the French Foreign Legion made up of non French who fights for France.

So, Afghanistan is right now in immense starvation because of US sanctions. Maybe, if China helped and then raised PLAFC (Foreign Comrades) then it'd create a what would become a big asset.

Most of developed world "allies" don't have the grit to fight. But the developing world can be made an asset for China. These people know to kick ass with old creaky AKs the investment per head may be very small.

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Doesn't sound too far fetched as China can promise them an escape from hunger and preferential treatment regarding BRI employment opportunities. Ofc, no need to grant citizenship like French.

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That happened before during the Jin dynasty and those mercenaries ended up rebelling since they were treated like c**p. That led to the 5 Barbarians era. While such an event won’t occur in the modern era, the thinking patterns of that era and today will remain the same since humans didn’t drastically evolve. Once you give them, especially a group of people from poor countries, employment and benefits, they will start thinking about their sacrifices’ worth and their families, and that’s when the demands for citizenship start. They can start striking and disable your overseas operations. People aren’t as stupid as they like to think themselves as.

LawLeadsToPeace said:

That happened before during the Jin dynasty and those mercenaries ended up rebelling since they were treated like c**p. That led to the 5 Barbarians era. While such an event won’t occur in the modern era, the thinking patterns of that era and today will remain the same since humans didn’t drastically evolve. Once you give them, especially a group of people from poor countries, employment and benefits, they will start thinking about their sacrifices’ worth and their families, and that’s when the demands for citizenship start. They can start striking and disable your overseas operations. People aren’t as stupid as they like to think themselves as.

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Not if you manage it with some skill and wit. By using a combination of "trained" religious leaders and Nationalist forces, they can be convinced to complete China's "wants and also haves".
Wants aren't Needs.

The PRC isn't old China with its empires. It is more than that. There is a huge support for China across Levant ( a documentary showed some Syrians, Iraqis having Chinese flags and symbols in their homes...) I'm sure the support can be converted to something tangible for PRC. Afghanistan's experience may be put to good use.

Xsizor said:

I was thinking about some things. The French has the French Foreign Legion made up of non French who fights for France.

So, Afghanistan is right now in immense starvation because of US sanctions. Maybe, if China helped and then raised PLAFC (Foreign Comrades) then it'd create a what would become a big asset.

Most of developed world "allies" don't have the grit to fight. But the developing world can be made an asset for China. These people know to kick ass with old creaky AKs the investment per head may be very small.

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Doesn't sound too far fetched as China can promise them an escape from hunger and preferential treatment regarding BRI employment opportunities. Ofc, no need to grant citizenship like French.

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Nah. This business has a lot of costs and creates many enemies.

China now gets most of the positives with minimal costs. US is paying for security around the world while China benefits by trading with the world while paying minimal security costs

As the US declines, China prefers to "outsource" this job to various regional powers who are going to pay for security while China keeps benefiting without paying extra

I am not saying that China will never expand its military outside but it will do so in a smart way. IMO it will be more focused on the most important locations for China's world interests and the rest will be managed by other countries

Anyway, that's a complicated topic. My point is that meddling too much in internal affairs will inevitably harm you. Much better for China to stay out of this and let other countries draw that hate for China. Outsourcing is indeed a great model

Xsizor said:

Not if you manage it with some skill and wit. By using a combination of "trained" religious leaders and Nationalist forces, they can be convinced to complete China's "wants and also haves".
Wants aren't Needs.

The PRC isn't old China with its empires. It is more than that. There is a huge support for China across Levant ( a documentary showed some Syrians, Iraqis having Chinese flags and symbols in their homes...) I'm sure the support can be converted to something tangible for PRC. Afghanistan's experience may be put to good use.

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Agree to disagree. People don’t like to die or bleed for another’s interest, especially when they are treated differently. Even with “skill and wit”, directly hiring people like that will ultimately lead to what I laid out above. For example, the US has this problem within its society and military. They pay impoverished foreigners with an hourly pay that is a lot to those people (but very little to an average US citizen), and those people bring over their families. Then the cycle repeats. As for the documentary you mentioned, those people support China because they believe China will help them achieve social stability within their countries, not sacrifice them solely for China’s interests. The current Chinese strategy works and helps the Chinese obtain support among those people without even a mg of propaganda.

Xsizor said:

Not if you manage it with some skill and wit. By using a combination of "trained" religious leaders and Nationalist forces, they can be convinced to complete China's "wants and also haves".
Wants aren't Needs.

The PRC isn't old China with its empires. It is more than that. There is a huge support for China across Levant ( a documentary showed some Syrians, Iraqis having Chinese flags and symbols in their homes...) I'm sure the support can be converted to something tangible for PRC. Afghanistan's experience may be put to good use.

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Do you have any link or name for that documentary you mentioned?

Bellum_Romanum said:

Do you have any link or name for that documentary you mentioned?

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It is atleast 5 years ago. Certainly was not al jazeera but some kind of local arab channel but in english. I was startled when I saw Chinese flags inside these wartorn homes. This was just before ISIS came about. I wish I could find it but its a lost cause, it seems.

Xsizor said:

There is a huge support for China across Levant ( a documentary showed some Syrians, Iraqis having Chinese flags and symbols in their homes...) I'm sure the support can be converted to something tangible for PRC. Afghanistan's experience may be put to good use.

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There are local interest groups in every country. Some like China, some don't. As long as this is the case then this is manageable.

However if China interfered in internal affairs this would change to "Some love China, some hate China"

This dislike -> hate change is bad news which China would like to avoid. If someone doesn't like you, he can still deal with you when offered enough benefits. However when the other hates you then it becomes almost impossible to reconcile with each other

After all, China inherently has the economic gravity required to influence other countries without interfering directly. Local interest groups, neighboring countries will influence a country to take a friendly stance towards with China without China needing to actively take action. That's what I call "outsourcing". There are sufficient interests that other people will do your job for free while also allowing you to wash your hands free from any bad reputation

Apple follows the same model. Its factories are garbage for treating its employees while the company itself is loved around the world as the paragon and protector of human rights lol

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Ridiculous. If it was built illegally it should be confiscated by the government and given to people.

Just for this decision, Xi Jinping should be taken down. The capital invested here is worth more than Xi govervance. There was a similar decision made in Beijing, it was about the houses.

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Don't understand how Xi is complicit but this seem to mirror the Dubai World Island mess. I don't think that much capital would be allowed to go to waste.

Wasn't it under Xi that a Ban on ugly buildings and regulations on infrastructure were instituted. Why should he step down for enforcing it ? Where's the logic ?

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Ridiculous. If it was built illegally it should be confiscated by the government and given to people.

Just for this decision, Xi Jinping should be taken down. The capital invested here is worth more than Xi govervance. There was a similar decision made in Beijing, it was about the houses.

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Are you okay in the head? Xi should be taken down? Lol have you finally cracked from you pretending to be somewhat neutral or supportive of China and it's leadership. 2021 must be really hard on you eh "ilikeimperialism"