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antiterror13

Brigadier
supersnoop said:
Not to sound prejudiced, but the guy is Indian.
Normally I would try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but Indian media is just the worst, and this guy shows it in spades (though published by an American outlet)
Letting go of how over the top the article is (invoking both Stalin and Hitler! Far Left and Far Right!), really the weaponizing was started by the US, so how is China weaponizing it?
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I think the US that weaponizing the sport. The pot calling the kettle black really
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Hendrik_2000 said:
Yeah that is the attitude of 3rd class country and people!
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You mean sane people who don't think that everything in every country is their personal business?
Hendrik_2000 said:
Contrast that to what the israeli does!
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Why? What has Israel achieved and what has China achieved? Why do we compare to them? I don't see anything I like; if you do, go be an Israeli citizen. Ask them to take you. But China's not Best-Buy; we don't do price/policy-matching.
Hendrik_2000 said:
There is Chinese saying drinking water remember where the source is. China owe a debt of gratitude to overseas chinese I said that un abashedly During the long economic blockade The west cut off all access to dollar and who provide dollar to buy the necessity of running a state basically kept it afloat . You bet it it is the overseas Chinese thru remittance money . The first 20 years of Chinese reform overseas Chinese provide most of the capital
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There is a Chinese saying that your country may betray you but you may never betray your country.

There is an American saying, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

There is a reason that those two are famous but not Evan Chin's
"My grand-dad fought against the Japanese and our lives are hard so yall should give me a free apartment." LOL

Point is, when you do your work as a patriot, it is out of your heart and you want nothing back. That is the true patriot mentality; you feel that just by existing, by having Chinese blood in you, you owe a life-long debt to your country, and you feel a little lighter, your soul a little freer and more refreshed every time you can do something to pay a bit of it off. As a true patriot, that is the only reward you seek. If you cannot do it but want constant repayment because you feel that your country owes you for everything you do, then live your own life and don't serve your country. China never agreed to pay you anything and owes you nothing. China has too many important things to do in the final sprint against the US to be pulled off track by your nagging desires/needs.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

Bellum_Romanum

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Hendrik_2000 said:
Yeah that is the attitude of 3rd class country and people! Contrast that to what the israeli does! There is Chinese saying drinking water remember where the source is. China owe a debt of gratitude to overseas chinese I said that un abashedly During the long economic blockade The west cut off all access to dollar and who provide dollar to buy the necessity of running a state basically kept it afloat . You bet it it is the overseas Chinese thru remittance money provide those money. The first 20 years of Chinese reform overseas Chinese provide most of the capital
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There are close to over 160 or so countries recognized in the U.N. and out of these countries, including the wealthiest developed countries you can only manage to single out Israel as your example to support your dubious and absurd proposition. Which goes to illustrate that even the best in us can become the worst in us depending on the topics of discussion. For you, it seems you carry a burden and unflinching desire for China to upend international rules in order to show it's undeniable power in military which theoretically in your mind can and will do wonders in projecting the message that Chinese people anywhere in the world can now act with confidence knowing that any mistreatment will result in Chinese Military imposition against any countries doing away with any countries sovereignity and national laws. As if the world and people's in those countries would simply choose to become muted and docile in the face of what's essentially China acting with impunity able to dictate and upend international laws thereby creating it's own hegemonic order to placate butthurt feelings of people ethnic Chinese across the globe.

Israel's history isn't similar to China not in a bazillion years and your attempt to conflate the historical countries culture and religion tells more about your lack of conceptualization and understanding of history, geography, and geopolitics. You rant about China must act like Israel and used it as your noun, pronoun, verb, adjective, and adverb. With all due respect you are way off base.
 
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texx1

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Bellum_Romanum said:
Your anecdotal examples are just that. Where I fail to see or understand the complains here is the painting of a picture in which you're alleging that Chinese people's lives in China are no better than what they were back in the colonial era, where Chinese folks are treated worse by their own government and foreigners were treated much better due to the imposition of the foreign powers who had set up shop in China. A ridiculous and thought provoking insult to the government and to the vast overwhelming people back in China that don't feel, see, or interpret the events you have provided as proof of the apparent discrimination by the Chinese from it's own government. It's like what you're suggesting is that what exactly? Dismantle the current government and replaced it with what? Western style democracy some loud but few passionate butthurt gang can run on this emotional charade platform that China ought to impose some kind of laws where Han Chinese reign Supreme and the rest of 56 ethnicities in China play supporting roles to make the Han majority feel good about itself?

And let the PLA interventionist policies kick in by going on expeditionary missions "punishing countries" that mistreated Chinese ethnic people but are nationalities of whatever X,Y,Z countries the supposed discriminations are happening? And for what exactly? To satisfy the emotional need for some kind of revenge and to show the world that what they have been fearing and dreading of China are actually true. And for once China needs to be checked if not outright splintered before it gets too strong? I don't know what song and dance some of the folks here are asking for.

Some of the complaints here are no different from the complaints I have heard from the white folks in Canada and especially in the U.S. where similar complaints have been alleged and made against their own government. In which they have expressed the sentiments that their "white ethic groups" are going through white genocide by being replaced systematically through mass immigration, by being replaced or denied the chance to attend their schools of choice because of quota a.k.a. affirmative action, by being denied well deserved promotions due to "diversity" meaning minorities (blacks, brown, women, Asians) get the spot. The majority of crimes and police killings are made against their group etc..and the government and parties on both sides have been bought and paid for them big bad "JEWS."

No laws, no government are perfect. They are only as good and responsive based on the quality or type of people that are in power. So if there's an existing and growing issues of perceived and worst of all real misapplication of laws against any regular Chinese that must be looked into seriously and if such allegations are found to be systemic then it must change and be rooted out. But if such issue exist based solely on one's perception (feelings and entitlement) and not on hard evidence, then the weight of the law must fall on the accuser equally harsh if not disproportionately harsher because such unfounded complaints do bring social disorder and disunity, a situation that must not be allowed to fester because it can and will lead to internal instability and chaos.
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Great jobs at strawmaning and putting words in my month. Where in my posts did I mention democracy, Han supremacy, foreign interventions, white genocide, affirmative actions or jews? I posted what I saw on Chinese media. Treatment of foreigners is a sensitive issue for PRC due to its founding history and the current social expectations.
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Bellum_Romanum said:
There are close to over 160 or so countries recognized in the U.N. and out of these countries, including the wealthiest developed countries you can only manage to single out Israel as your example to support your dubious and absurd proposition. Which goes to illustrate that even the best in us can become the worst in us depending on the topics of discussion. For you, it seems you carry a burden and unflinching desire for China to upend international rules in order to show it's undeniable power in military which theoretically in your mind can and will do wonders in projecting the message that Chinese people anywhere in the world can now act with confidence knowing that any mistreatment will result in Chinese Military imposition against any countries doing away with any countries sovereignity and national laws. As if the world and people's in those countries would simply choose to become muted and docile in the face of what's essentially China acting with impunity able to dictate and upend international laws thereby creating it's own hegemonic order to placate butthurt feelings of people ethnic Chinese across the globe.

Israel's history isn't similar to China not in a bazillion years and your attempt to conflate the historical countries culture and religion tells more about your lack of conceptualization and understanding of history, geography, and geopolitics. You rant about China must act like Israel and used it as your noun, pronoun, verb, adjective, and adverb. With all due respect you are way off base.
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You can hide behind you rhetoric to mask your own weakness let alone protecting overseas Chinese They still not able to end the 75 years civil war Go talk to me when they liberated Taiwan. Power only come from the barrel of the gun everybody know it Nobody mess with Israel because they know what is coming to them. China? even third rate country like Lithuania,Solomon.Congo poke their eye and China didn't do anything other than symbolic boycott
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Hendrik_2000 said:
You can hide behind you rhetoric to mask your own weakness let alone protecting overseas Chinese
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The only weakness I see here is coming from an angry guy who wants to use national power (probably not even from his own nation), instead of his own power, to attack other people. Go show how totally not weak you are by being a rabid dog with your own body; start fights. Don't be a fake tough guy with power that is not yours.
Hendrik_2000 said:
They still not able to end the 75 years civil war Go talk to me when they liberated Taiwan.
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I'll talk to you when they liberate Taiwan if you don't talk on this forum until then. But if you talk, I will point out your wrongs. 75 years and China has not completely finished its transformation from a country weaker than India to one stronger than the US? Seems a bit rushed for such a magnanimous task; is there a timer or something?
Hendrik_2000 said:
Power only come from the barrel of the gun everybody know it
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Then don't start shit when you're not the most powerful country yet.
Hendrik_2000 said:
Nobody mess with Israel because they know what is coming to them.
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Actually, many countries and even nation-less organizations in the Middle East mess with Israel shooting rockets and sending freedom fighters over there. Israel is constantly in a state of pseudo-war. Go and see. Apply for citizenship if you love it. We don't have the constant bomb-shelter drills and emergencies in China. Go try it there.
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China? even third rate country like Lithuania poke their eye and China didn't do anything other than symbolic boycott
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Your current brainfart is to attack Lithuania with the PLA?? LOLOL China doesn't even want to talk to this fly. Took them off the import list and watch them cry. "USA, EU! Heeeeelp!" LOL
 
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Overbom

Brigadier
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Hendrik_2000 said:
Power only come from the barrel of the gun everybody know it
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Exactly, which is what China is doing right now. If it starts getting distracted to start playing the saviour of the world then that "barrel of the gun" will never materialize

Hendrik_2000 said:
Nobody mess with Israel because they know what is coming to them.
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What is that obsession with Israel? Israel is riding the US train from the start. This is why it can do these things

Hendrik_2000 said:
China? even third rate country like Lithuania poke their eye and China didn't do anything other than symbolic boycott
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Lithuania will get its punishment eventually. What's the hurry? Is Lithuania going to disappear or what? Let it cry a bit more about losing the Chinese market first
 
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B.I.B.

Captain
supersnoop said:
Not to sound prejudiced, but the guy is Indian.
Normally I would try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but Indian media is just the worst, and this guy shows it in spades (though published by an American outlet)
Letting go of how over the top the article is (invoking both Stalin and Hitler! Far Left and Far Right!), really the weaponizing was started by the US, so how is China weaponizing it?
Terrible article
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To deflect the rubbish that is continually being thrown at China by Western leaders and politicians, China needs to remind the rest of the world that the same powers by freezing Afghanistan money held in their banks, are in fact committing genocide as millions of Afghans face starvation.

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texx1

Junior Member
Bellum_Romanum said:
"US judge might advocate for leniency for exploited workers."

Sure by sending a poor person 15 years for stealing while handing out 3 years prison terms for a Billionaire who cheated the government for billions.

I can count and cite a lot of examples to rebutt your examples of supposed equanimity of applied justice in America, if that's what your intentions was and is all about. You sneakily using American example as your proof that in America and it's system is better somehow than in China is that it? Pardon my observations but am just calling em as I read em.
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You seem to be enjoying assuming other posters' intentions a lot. I suggested possible leniency because it has all the elements of a good narrative, a David vs Goliath story. You have disabled workers fighting to receive their deserved work injury compensation against a lying sleazy boss. If there's media involvement and the public were to be sympathetic to their plight, the US judge would possibly take public sentiment into account when sentencing.
 
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