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Bob Smith

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SanWenYu said:
Are the Faux News audience really this stupid to believe this Gordon Chang guy? Or is the Faux News trying to assult the intelligence of the US population? Unbelievable.
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Not just Fox News. He's a regular at CNN also. Americans love sensationalism and Gordon Chang provides them that.

 
Phead128

Phead128

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j17wang said:
How quickly can China offer a support package to Russia in case of a sudden SWIFT cut-off? Russia can survive without SWIFT in long run, but may need assistance with short-term transition.
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As quickly as Stalin absolved Mao's Korean War Debt.... which is never.
 
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Overbom

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j17wang said:
How quickly can China offer a support package to Russia in case of a sudden SWIFT cut-off? Russia can survive without SWIFT in long run, but may need assistance with short-term transition. Its like how US levied sanctions against Huawei, which would have been much less effective if done much later. Threatening another superpower with sanctions should require a whole of nation response from both China and the Russian federation. At a minimum, civilian flights over Russian and chinese airspace must be denied, all attempts to constrain Russian and Chinese strategic weapons rejected, and unconditional support should be provided to Iran, both in strategic and conventional assets.
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What's to worry? China can support it short term, and they can initially do barter trade until their messaging systems can work, in order to trade effectively

As for the US actually using the SWIFT trump card, lol!

The biggest pillar of US hegemonic empire is its dominance over SWIFT and having the hegemonic currency, the dollar

This move, would significantly accelerate the collapse of the dollar "empire". I am almost looking forward into the US actually using the SWIFT move
 
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texx1

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Bellum_Romanum said:
You made a leap of judgment by making a blanket condemnation with a matter of fact speaking that "Chinese in China gets second class treatment from it's own government." You made a loaded accusation with profound implications that pretty much indicted the current system of governance in China. Your example was not limited in scope or confined to a specific province, city, village etc..but was directly inferring and implicating that the current system is far more deferential to the foreigners than to it's own.

The onus is on you to come up with a more credible examples and not a few anecdotal examples that are lacking contextualization and total understanding of the situation. You made a leap of faith that such examples you mentioned, read, saw and disseminated were concrete enough evidence to insert your offensive allegations that Chinese government is ineffectual. So don't be upset and acting like I have offended your sensibilities when what you charged against the situation and government in China are hella more outrageous and in my view contemptuous.
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I provided Chinese news reporting about incidents where foreigners received preferential treatments. All of those cases were resolved and relevant parties issued their official apologies. I just don't see how more credible those news/examples could be. As I mentioned, Chinese officials wouldn't want to get further involved in those cases due their political sensitive nature. You are knowingly asking for something that no individual on SDF could possibly provide. It's bad form to first set up an impossible standard then to criticize those who failed to meet it. As such I believe I have the right to take offence.

As others have said PRC government isn't infallible, cases of preferential treatments of foreigners did occur and it has resulted in outrage among more nationalistic Chinese citizens. It's a potential problem that PRC needs to be more aware of especially if it wants to reduce foreign worship.
 
Phead128

Phead128

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Bob Smith said:
Not just Fox News. He's a regular at CNN also. Americans love sensationalism and Gordon Chang provides them that.

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Nathan Law, Gordon Chang, these two Hanjians get their regular bowl of rice just acting like a useful (yellow faced) tool idiot while regurgitating "China Bad" to thirsty racist Westerners. (ya see, the yellow man said it himself!) so they can claim not to be racist.

You are right about sensationalism, the West will hire anyone who can say the most outrageous things with a straight face on TV. That is American media sensationalism and clickbait and 24/7 news cycles which depends this.
 
daifo

daifo

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texx1 said:
I provided Chinese news reporting about incidents where foreigners received preferential treatments. All of those cases were resolved and relevant parties issued their official apologies. I just don't see how more credible those news/examples could be. As I mentioned, Chinese officials wouldn't want to get further involved in those cases due their political sensitive nature. You are knowingly asking for something that no individual on SDF could possibly provide. It's bad form to first set up an impossible standard then to criticize those who failed to meet it. As such I believe I have the right to take offence.

As others have said PRC government isn't infallible, cases of preferential treatments of foreigners did occur and it has resulted in outrage among more nationalistic Chinese citizens. It's a potential problem that PRC needs to be more aware of especially if it wants to reduce foreign worship.
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Apparently the worship is over according to an American (maybe 2nd gen Chinese/Asian) that did a reddit AMA. The guy try to assault a police while drunk and was put into detention the entire time he was waiting for trial. 6 months of detention (the max he can be held before trial), trial found him guilty and sentence him to 6 months time serve.He said the embassy guy went to visit him once in a while and handed him some english magazines during that period and said time has changed.
 
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