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broadsword

Brigadier
That's if they are willing to change. Put this way, look at American companies coming to China to do business, they have to follow our rules because it's our country. What we say goes here, not the Americans nor anyone else and if they disagree with our rules we show them the door. The situation with Africa is literally what we are doing at home but the position is switched. You are forcing yourself onto others who may agree but as we see don't. This will only ruin our relationship with other countries if we can't even show some decent respect to their sovereignty.

If only corruption is not ruinous, then there is nothing to change.
 

Cyclist

Junior Member
Corruption has been in existence for as long as human exists, I think, (example from Bible, Adam and Eve, if Eve was not corrupted by the serpent, maybe the Bible story will be different). Is China free of corruption? Is USA free of corruption? I don't think so. How do you expect Africa can be free of corruption? Corruption needs to have two parties, the giver and the taker, the asker and the provider. As long as Africans themselves are not corrupt, I don't think even if Chinese want to bribe, the African themselves would not take the bribes. You simply can not blame all of the faults to the Chinese.

All the cases of corruption need to be look from case per case, who asking or offering the bribe?
 

Topazchen

Junior Member
Registered Member
So let me ask you this then if we say the foreign government required us to pay them some "interest" before we can work on the project or we can screw off and let the Americans do it instead, what would you choose? The legal "corruption" and look bad or simply stick with your principles and leave the country? Either way, the foreign government finds someone who is willing to pay them and the project if we choose not to and there is no proof they will even come close to how we will do it. You forcing your principles and ideals on foreign lands and people is literally imperialism. It's not up to China to tell them how to do things because at the end of the day, China isn't the police nor caretakers of the world.
There's no country in the world where bribery is legal. It's mainly elites and the bribes don't go to finance education and health initiatives. The go to the pockets of a select few who park them in tax heavens and use the funds to distort the property market in countries like Kenya

If China finds corruption reprehensible in China, it should do them same in other countries.
Corruption is an evil that should not be tolerated
 
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