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SampanViking

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@SampanViking Sir if true this is a strategic geopolitical move, Pakistan surely is involved and with possible coordination with Iran and Russia. Not purely a military base but maybe stationing some drones and intelligence aircraft to monitor ETIM or ISIS.

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China moves into Bagram airfield? An important piece to the Eurasia puzzle The Duran: Episode 1105 US-abandoned Bagram ...
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Its certainly fascinating if true.
I would wonder if this is more to do with a base of operations for Belt and Road Initiative projects rather than a dedicated military base.
Lets keep eyes and ears open and see what we can discover over the coming days and weeks.....
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Chinese general Zhang Xudong who stepped down as head of Western Theatre Command in June dies aged 58

  • Zhang, who was replaced as head of the country’s biggest military theatre, had been suffering from cancer and gastrointestinal problems, military sources sayHis replacement,
  • Xu Qiling, stepped down after just two months and is also said to be in poor health amid a spate of illnesses among commanders and troops

“Working conditions in the low-oxygen, low-temperature, high-altitude Western Theatre Command are tough, with coronary heart disease becoming a common problem among officers and soldiers,” Zhou said.



The Western Theatre Command was established as part of a major military overhaul five years ago, which divided the country into five theatre commands as part of the drive to modernise the military and make it combat-ready.




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Bellum_Romanum

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For the most part NATO = US, US = NATO. Looking at the command and control structure, funding and actions of this military block in the past 20 years should make this abundantly clear to anyone that cares to take a closer look.

NATO headquarters is not in Brussels but in Washington DC.
NATO HEADQUARTER is IN MONS, BELGIUM not in America per se. Out of all the Combatant Command posts in the U.S. military, the most coveted theatre post historically has always been the NATO/EUCOM as SACEUR. So whoever gets the SACEUR position concurrently serves as the EUCOM commander and is headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany.

I just double checked with the D.O.D. site and it does still state that NATO HEADQUARTER is in Mons, Belgium.
 

Overbom

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Chinese general Zhang Xudong who stepped down as head of Western Theatre Command in June dies aged 58

  • Zhang, who was replaced as head of the country’s biggest military theatre, had been suffering from cancer and gastrointestinal problems, military sources sayHis replacement,
  • Xu Qiling, stepped down after just two months and is also said to be in poor health amid a spate of illnesses among commanders and troops

“Working conditions in the low-oxygen, low-temperature, high-altitude Western Theatre Command are tough, with coronary heart disease becoming a common problem among officers and soldiers,” Zhou said.



The Western Theatre Command was established as part of a major military overhaul five years ago, which divided the country into five theatre commands as part of the drive to modernise the military and make it combat-ready.




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Thats quite bad.
Has there been research to stop these thing?. Keep in mind that these are the top military officers who are supposed to live in good conditions.

So how about soldiers, NCOs and other officers on the frontlines?

Practical solutions are needed
 

taxiya

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I'm a Kenyan born ,went to school in Canada and I shuttle between Nairobi and Toronto .Africans are not buying this China threat propaganda by the west but incidents like these dont do China and China any favours .Like I said ,they get amplified and are used as examples of Chinese "colonisation" in Africa which is honestly bull .

The prevailing attitude here is "we like your work but we dont like you .Finish and go "
Thanks for sharing your background. I asked that because we had some (not a few) new members in this forum in the recent past pretending to be someone that they are not. I appreciate that you did not take my question as offensive.

The attitude is interesting and I can imagine that when two don't get very well in the neighborhood.

But I also had direct information from my Kenya friend who complained that "Chinese workers stay within their complex, compound, camps, never mingle with locals".

So it seems that, Kenyans dislike Chinese because they stay away from the locals, but in the mean time dislike Chinese in general for someone's perceived bad behavior. So either way one is damned.

I think if people want to engage with outsiders, people must be willing to accept the fact that some bad behavior from some of these outsiders is inevitable, and NOT make a big fuss about it. Otherwise, one must appreciate the distance that the outsider is trying to keep. There is NO perfect angel like outsiders, just like one's own countryman are not perfect.

Chinese has had and still has (to some degree) the altitude of expecting only good foreigners into China, I can say that Kenyans (the media) has the same altitude. Just like some Kenyans' media like you posted complaining cruel Chinese employer, some Chinese media also labeling Africans as trouble makers in Guanzhou. The difference is that Chinese government tries to suppress this kind of media report. Kenya as a democracy does not.

IMO, government suppression is necessary, because I believe general mass is more emotional and self-centric than rational and even-minded. As a individual like me, I prefer the suppression therefor I refute and reject such "national labeling negative journalist report" UNLESS it is presented with fact that can be verified independently. And even so, such report is unwarranted because "national labeling" is just another variant of racism.

Misconduct should be dealt by law of the relevant authority and not be used to paint image of certain people. Otherwise, one can not complain about the "negative imaging of Africans" in China or anywhere in the world.
 
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solarz

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Thats quite bad.
Has there been research to stop these thing?. Keep in mind that these are the top military officers who are supposed to live in good conditions.

So how about soldiers, NCOs and other officers on the frontlines?

Practical solutions are needed

Military officers are also older than the regular soldiers, and I suspect their accommodation is not all that better.
 

supersnoop

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Thats quite bad.
Has there been research to stop these thing?. Keep in mind that these are the top military officers who are supposed to live in good conditions.

So how about soldiers, NCOs and other officers on the frontlines?

Practical solutions are needed
It did say he had CANCER
You might have missed that
I don't think that the cancer is related since it says the common problem is heart disease
 

KenC

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I have paid attention to Kenya's media a few years ago after the completion of the Nairobi-Mombasa railway. The ruling government politicians are very positive, but large part of the media and the opposition were not very happy about Chinese presence. I think the major media are corporate driven and their have different interests and are probably have Western interest in mind. Even back then, there were already allegations about Chinese railway builder staff mistreating Kenyans but were later found to be unfounded.

Recently I have paid attention to a number of Youtube videos of the interaction of Chinese in Africa.

Following is from a mobile phone factory boss in Uganda. He develops very good relationship with locals and help many of the poor single mums (apparently it is rather rampant for men to runway from women even after impregnating them ) . Also price of ordinary produced or manufactured goods are not cheap in Africa.


Somewhere in Zambia:
 
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