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iewgnem

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Correct. Russian hawks are gone and replaced by China hawks. Their entire focus is on China. The China hawks want their proxy war against China like what Russia hawks did with Ukraine. All the moves made are moving chess pieces for a clash with China. They didn’t become peaceful people by wanting to end the Ukraine war, they just disagree on the opponent.
American nature has always been sore losers so it has been easily predictable for >15 years that Chinese dominance will reach a point, sometime between 2020 and 2030, where America conclude gambling on a hot war is their own chance at survival, no matter how bad the odds. That's just their nature.

But at end of the day it's not about will, it's about ability, America gambled on their failed bio-war in 2020 without checking if they can fight one, and proverbially found out the hard way even to this day. Its the same economically and militarily, it's not about if they want to fight a trade war, tech war or hot war, it's about their total lack of competency in all domains across both parties.

China has already prepared the pit for the sore loser to jump into, TBH at this point it would be disappointing if America chickens out
 

Serb

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American nature has always been sore losers so it has been easily predictable for >15 years that Chinese dominance will reach a point, sometime between 2020 and 2030, where America conclude gambling on a hot war is their own chance at survival, no matter how bad the odds. That's just their nature.

But at end of the day it's not about will, it's about ability, America gambled on their failed bio-war in 2020 without checking if they can fight one, and proverbially found out the hard way even to this day. Its the same economically and militarily, it's not about if they want to fight a trade war, tech war or hot war, it's about their total lack of competency in all domains across both parties.

China has already prepared the pit for the sore loser to jump into, TBH at this point it would be disappointing if America chickens out

Yeah, I've been observing the collapse intensely and it truly seems that no matter what the US tries to do nowadays it always practically ends up in failure like the Gordian knot (anything in terms of building back their own internal capability or narrowing distance with China). Just like in many similar end-stage collapses of empires in history.

At this point, to me, the most logical outcome is that they decide simply to give it one final go that they have yet not tried, and provoke China directly into a hot war around Taiwan in this presidency (quite easy to do actually, not very unrealistic scenario).

The basis is that since they can't improve themselves, better try to bring your main competitor down with all that rusting old military hardware you still have a lot of thanks to past generations before even they become fully obsolete and rot away as well.

Ofc, they would have been beaten badly and fragmented in a few months by current China; but if they were smart enough to realize this now, they would have not been in this predicament in the first place. They would not have given China 20+ free years to develop while pointlessly bombing/fixating on some random Muslims everywhere.
 
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supersnoop

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For Ukraine, the result will be mixed. The old artificial Ukraine, with its Orthodox majority population and Soviet borders, has been destroyed, it is gone forever!
How is there an "old artificial Ukraine"? The Ukrainian SSR was the first time there was a real unified Ukraine as a political entity rather than the dreams of nationalists. Before it was just land split between Poland, Russian Empire, Austria-Hungary. By your logic, the whole idea of Ukraine would be artificial since it never existed.
 
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