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What China Got Right About Big Tech​

Unlike Trump, Xi understood that a new class of business titans could hijack his country’s political system.​

In certain ways, Ma’s story is a uniquely Chinese one. It demonstrates the Communist Party’s obsession with control, as the party has long worked to prevent the emergence of a fully independent private sector in China. It is also part of the saga of Xi, who has worked hard to concentrate power in his own hands and who brooks no rivals in public attention and adulation.

Yet the humbling of Ma—and an entire class of other newly minted, mega-rich tech entrepreneurs in China—also speaks profoundly to political developments in the United States surrounding President Donald Trump’s reconquest of power after four years out of office.

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In bringing this new class of business titans to heel, China’s leaders made a carefully considered strategic decision about the direction of their country’s political economy. In effect, they were saying that Beijing would never grant a dominant role to the extraordinarily lucrative and freewheeling private technology sector. Put slightly differently, that sector would have no sacred cows and would never be allowed to cast a shadow on the party and state.

In the emerging Trump regime, we are seeing just the opposite. The administration is a collection of billionaires that almost mindlessly celebrates wealth. On his first full day in office, for example, Trump gathered in the White House with two of the world’s richest men—Larry Ellison of Oracle and Masayoshi Son of Softbank—along with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman to salute the launch of a new project called

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, billed as a $500 billion joint venture to build artificial intelligence infrastructure.

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Trump’s explanation for why this merited his support was almost childishly vapid. “AI seems to be very hot,” he said. “It seems to be the thing that a lot of smart people are looking at very strongly.”

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China has not reined in its tech sector out of any belief in democracy, but rather through a seeming understanding that the new forces of wealth, data, intelligence, information, commerce, and communications can hijack a country’s political system and lead it into dangerously uncharted territory.

Trump, who betrays little technical sophistication, has done the opposite, as he has embraced the big tech sector and celebrated its wealthiest. If this is not challenged, the world might one day look back at this time as the moment when the U.S. state was captured.

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Temstar said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1882898628525584663

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Which stage of grief is this? Bargaining or depression?

Another excuse that I see people are now doing:
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"It couldn't have been 5.5 million worth of compute! It must have been a lot more than that! They are secretly buying and stockpiling H100 from somewhere!"

Maybe we should start some rumour about how it's actually achieved by having all the Chinese diaspora being bullied by the secret overseas police stations into buying 4090 (and soon 5090) and running them on their PC with some sort of distributed computing software to donate GPU cycles for Chinese AI programs and that's where all the compute are coming from.

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Temstar said:

Yeah a distillation size that fits onto a single 5090 seems like a good size, pretty much the most powerful card regular people can get their hands on without having the hookup to get a commercial card through some dodgy channel.

When they said a 70b distillation needs two 4090 how does that work? I thought SLI is no longer a thing with consumer cards, do you just slot two 4090 onto a motherboard and just the PCIE lanes between them is fast enough to handle a model?

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What China Got Right About Big Tech​

Unlike Trump, Xi understood that a new class of business titans could hijack his country’s political system.​

Is the MSM allowed to openly praise China now?

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coolgod said:

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What China Got Right About Big Tech​

Unlike Trump, Xi understood that a new class of business titans could hijack his country’s political system.​

Is the MSM allowed to openly praise China now?

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coolgod said:

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What China Got Right About Big Tech​

Unlike Trump, Xi understood that a new class of business titans could hijack his country’s political system.​

Is the MSM allowed to openly praise China now?

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To create a favorable environment for all types of business entities, it is also imperative to refine the systems underpinning the market economy, take stronger action against monopolies and unfair competition, and conduct law-based regulation and guidance to promote the healthy development of capital.

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GulfLander said:

Just some observation on those tweets, alot of them are indians, regardless of who enjoy Deepseekr1 or reject deepseek r1.. why isnt india capitalizing on those talents domestically?

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GulfLander said:

Just some observation on those tweets, alot of them are indians, regardless of who enjoy Deepseekr1 or reject deepseek r1.. why isnt india capitalizing on those talents domestically?

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Fatty said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881978296675762632

The answer is because Indians love to cheap out. You see this all the time in their military procurement, but it’s the case in other sectors too. This is the Indian CEO of an American AI firm offering 1m to an Indian startup to compete with deepseek, and another 10m if they can compete with R1. That amount of money is not even enough for a few test runs to create these models, much less the cost of infrastructure and talent. The AI industry is extremely capital intensive with little immediate gains, kind of the antithesis of what modern Indian culture values.

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