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9dashline

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So Qwen and DeepSeek put an end to this trick....

The US made it work with Iphone vs andriod and in the AI era the plan was for OpenAI to be closed frontier and Llama to be lagging open source.... and no one else can squeeze in, entire AI ecosystem would be all American, full stack USA

Like USD + bitcoin etc

Except they didnt count on the whale....

This is what I call a Quantum Pincer move in the age of AI Weiqi

Well played by China
This is just speculatiion, but remember how it wasnt long ago Sam Altman was saying he needs 7 trillion to get to ASI, and how Zuck claims to have spent 10 billion just to train Llama 3?

Now DeepSeek shows its possible to make a SOTA model with just 5 million...

Something isnt adding up

What if this whole AI bubble was a deliberate Ponzi scheme and NFT-isque money laundering to extent the petrodollar?

Basically they are all in on it, and like tulips and overpriced artwork, the real trick here is that AI is a way to prop up the US dollar in plain sight...
 

SanWenYu

Captain
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When they first came for low value manufacturing jobs, I did nothing, because I don’t make cheap plastic toys.

When they came for heavy industry jobs, I did nothing, because I don’t build cars.

When they came for electronics jobs, I did nothing, because I don’t assemble phones.

When they came for semiconductor jobs, I did nothing, because I can’t tell litho from graphy.

When they came for software developer jobs, I did nothing, because I don’t make apps.

Now they’ve come for data science jobs, and there is no one to left to defend me.
Written by AI again?
 

iewgnem

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What’s likely to happen instead is that the U.S. government will simply continue and increase catering to tech oligarchs, like future trillionaires Musk, Bezos, Zuck, and even Altman, unlike the more optimal superior approach Xi Jinping demonstrated by reining in Big Tech timely.

They’ll ignorantly keep pouring billions into outdated AI projects while banning companies like DeepSeek from operating in the West.

They’re doubling down on these pointless investments while turning a blind eye to real innovation like DeepSeek. It’s not about fostering progress or technology, it’s about consolidating power, and control, and living out their fantasies of being modern sci-fi feudal lords.

This strategy just allows mediocre, corrupt domestic tech giants to strengthen their grip on the market, propping up their techno-feudal, rent-seeking empires.

And of course, they’ll keep adding more top-tier superior Chinese companies like Unitree to their blacklist, joining names like Huawei, TikTok, DJI, and others.

When they can’t compete, they ban and ordinary people pay the price, it’s as simple as that, oligarchs can't lose now. It’s honestly absurd how clownish and plutocratic the U.S. has become. And they’ll keep at it, right until the whole system finally comes crashing down soon.
You care way too much what a second rate has-been country that can't compete does.
 

iewgnem

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Which stage of grief is this? Bargaining or depression?

Another excuse that I see people are now doing:
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"It couldn't have been 5.5 million worth of compute! It must have been a lot more than that! They are secretly buying and stockpiling H100 from somewhere!"

Maybe we should start some rumour about how it's actually achieved by having all the Chinese diaspora being bullied by the secret overseas police stations into buying 4090 (and soon 5090) and running them on their PC with some sort of distributed computing software to donate GPU cycles for Chinese AI programs and that's where all the compute are coming from.
Americans would be starving on the street and still worry about "losing their dominance"
 
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