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daifo

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I heard (unverified) that Audi is going to put HW ADS in all its cars in 2025, including all ICE and NEV models (I am not sure how it would work in ICE cars). And it was already verified that VW is going big in its He Fei R&D center after it dismantled Cariad. Audi was by far the worst among BBA in 2024. And 2025 is going to more brutal than 2024. So I would be a little more generous by saying that, at least, VW is trying ...

US is banning all Chinese car software... how will they plan to get around that? Have some gimped euro/us software for the us?
 

4Runner

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Keep the data in Chinese databases plz.
That's for sure. China made Audi brand what it is today in the global market. In China, BBA are tier one and Lexus is in tier two. But I think in US buyers would put Lexus above Audi. I still remember the days of Audi 100, which was not a great car and when Audi was not even regarded as a true luxury brand. So in my memory, it would be a no-brainer for Audi to fix its standing in China first and foremost. Going all-in now is the only viable option.

BTW, Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen already announced L3 regulation in 2025, one of which terms is that vendors shall be responsible for their L3 offering liability. That would put all self-claimed L3 vendors on the beach and show who are naked at the end of the day. I think 2025 will determine the ultimate fate of BBA standings in China.
 

siegecrossbow

General
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People thought all the bad stuff like job cuts, bad economy, war etc would go down now the uncertainty about Trump getting elected is gone and it’s the end of 2024. However it’s the start of 2025 and so far it’s still shit.

Problems don’t magically fix themselves. If anything the Trump presidency will increase the speculative part of the economy since he loves superficial wins (best stock market in history). Unfortunately it is going to continue to contribute to the wealth gap.
 

Temstar

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I'm not sure how would a 50% joint venture work, Bytedance is almost joint venture.
There's no negotiation after you undo a ban like that, where would your bargaining power come from? What threaten another ban?
More like after 90 days they would quietly extend for another 90 days "because negotiation is still ongoing, it will be done soon" and so on and so forth every 90 days.
 

9dashline

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I'm not sure how would a 50% joint venture work, Bytedance is almost joint venture. Seems like Trump wants to spin off a new company tiktok, I doubt China will approve unless it is a really good deal, just face saving for Trump.
Reading the last sentence of paragraph one, he is making retroactive guarantees now? See what I mean, essentially promissary EOs before even getting into office
 

coolgod

Colonel
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There's no negotiation after you undo a ban like that, where would your bargaining power come from? What threaten another ban?
More like after 90 days they would quietly extend for another 90 days "because negotiation is still ongoing, it will be done soon" and so on and so forth every 90 days.
I could see a deal possible if this deal was just shuffling some obfuscated ownership structure and Trump allowed Chinese EV manufacturers to do joint ventures in US.

Also Trump just launched a scam coin in US, it is already $62. What if Trump pulls a pump and dump and use the equity to buy say 1% of Bytedance and calls it a day :p
 
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