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GOODTREE

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4Runner said:
Tesla would have been sticked to $30B cap at best and might have been struggling financially. I don't think Musk would open his big mouth against China at this juncture. At the end of the day, China still is the market that will determine the future of Tesla.
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Of course, there's no losing the dirty underbelly of being a capitalist, but what pisses me off is that this dog seems to have realized that it's actually been pushed into a huge vortex of power, so much so that he seems to think he's worthy of being qualified to bargain with China. While it's true that the power of his words isn't what it used to be, I'd still like to say that this isn't the place for you to be at the table, eOlN.
 
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4Runner said:
I am sorry, I don't want to be mean, but you obviously don't understand US domestic politics. Mid-term election is critical to Trump 2.0 and existential to GOP beyond Trump 2.0. I have already stated clear in my previous posts on this subject. It is all about self-interests as far as deal is concerned. And I see possible scenarios in which both parties could get what they want. As Trump already said it in a recent interview, the world is already in the de facto G2 era, like it or not to the rest of the world. Biden was trying to gang up west on China, while Trump 2.0 wants to make deal with China and milk the rest of the world. Go figure ...
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I don't disagree that Trump could probably stop the TikTok ban for now (before mid-terms), but all these things about long-term peaceful coexistence with China (due Tik Tok) are not very realistic. That's a very long shot, if we understand that Trump HIMSELF and his party kickstarted this whole trend of escalation toward China that later also became bi-partisan. To think that they would stop now after China became an even stronger, multiple orders of magnitude threat than ever before is crazy.



Edit: Will Trump stop with tech sanctions, economic sanctions, tariffs, political provocations regarding Taiwan, military posturing, etc, the answer is 100% no! A few cordial diplomatic ceremonial symbolic meetings and gestures won't be able to change that fact about the clear trendline that exists now.


Also, China's developmental model isn't 'milking the rest of the world,' China simply wants the US to stop containing its internal rise with the things I mentioned here and leave it alone to breathe. And the US simply can't stop doing that, because this affects their own imperial model of sustaining their rotten empire.
 
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Temstar

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Serb said:
I don't disagree that Trump will probably stop the TikTok ban for now, but all these things about long-term coexistence with China are not very realistic. That's a very long shot, if we understand that Trump HIMSELF and his party kickstarted this whole trend of escalation toward China that later also became bi-partisan. To think that they would stop now after China became an even stronger order of magnitude threat than ever before is crazy.
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Don't worry, once you've dealt with Trump once he's easy to read. In fact for political animals such as world leaders he can be read like a book, recall Kim walking out on Trump during their talk when he realized Trump wasn't forth coming with any good deal. If there are deals available from him that's favourable then take them. But have backup plans when he flip the table such as what TikTok did with their super duper VPN proof US shutdown.

Musk is not to be trusted but my feeling is sooner or later him and Trump will have a falling out. Trump hates it when someone else take the limelight and that's what Musk does best. Once it happens assuming Musk is able to flee and reach Shanghai his mom probably already picked out a mansion for him and he can spend rest of his day as a Chinese capitalist. If he tries anything funny just Jack Ma him.
 
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GZDRefugee said:
Dating market for Chinese bros went from a seller's market to a buyer's market in the span of a week. Chinese bros are eating good. Blow out some backs for the rest of us, damn.
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Good thing is that American women are realising how insecure and jealous a lot of american men are with regards to Chinese men. If anything, it’ll encourage a lot of lost Chinese Americans to rediscover their heritage, as LKY mentioned.

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Trump's inauguration ceremony is indoors now.

Trump’s inauguration to be moved indoors​

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Chevalier said:
Good thing is that American women are realising how insecure and jealous a lot of american men are with regards to Chinese men. If anything, it’ll encourage a lot of lost Chinese Americans to rediscover their heritage, as LKY mentioned.

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Don't share us tiktok links, that shit is banned here lmao.
 
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Serb said:
I don't disagree that Trump could probably stop the TikTok ban for now, but all these things about long-term coexistence with China are not very realistic. That's a very long shot, if we understand that Trump HIMSELF and his party kickstarted this whole trend of escalation toward China that later also became bi-partisan. To think that they would stop now after China became an even stronger, multiple orders of magnitude threat than ever before is crazy.



Edit: Will Trump stop with tech sanctions, economic sanctions, tariffs, political provocations regarding Taiwan, military posturing, etc, the answer is 100% no! A few cordial diplomatic ceremonial symbolic meetings won't be able to change that fact about the clear trendline that exists now.
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This happen in his last term as well. China was mostly ignore in the 1st half before he raised the sinophobia level 3x, arrested meng, trade war, huawei/zte ban, covid propaganda, hk color revolution. This time he is even more prepared and have silicon valley brains behind him as well. China shouldn't take him as the same as before.

Internal conflict may also be his bigger threat when his maga projects fail, og maga wake up that he is just another oligarch, inflation or if the democrats grow a spine again etc. His minons are not taking basic school vaccines and he might ignore the bird flu threat to livestock... so alot of unknowns as well.
 
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