They can make a special version for the PRC. Whether anyone actually uses it is up to China. If there is no traffic then joke’s on him.
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They can make a special version for the PRC. Whether anyone actually uses it is up to China. If there is no traffic then joke’s on him.
Hmm... If he just make a Chinese version, then it can't compete with Weibo.
Basically lose all competitiveness.
If we recall how it started, it all started that Google wanted its own way in China and China wanted Google to follow Chinese regulation. Google pulled out and the rest is history. Facebook wanted to be in when Zuch visited Beijing many years ago after the Google exit. Zuch did not get what he wanted even he brought his wife and played Chinese card there. Since then, the common perception is that China bans all US social media, which is not how we got here.
The mega trend in China since the end of Covid is opening up slowly but surely in all domains. If X agrees to Chinese regulation with global version or local version, I would see a likely availability of X in China.
Shanghai Tesla Giga made what Musk is today. Other wise, Tesla would have been sticked to $30B cap at best and might have been struggling financially. I don't think Musk would open his big mouth against China at this juncture. At the end of the day, China still is the market that will determine the future of Tesla. Among things, FSD success in China 2025 is essential to the viability of Tesla global success.
Hard to believe that Trump is going to abandon the existing deep state plans to provoke a hot war and maintain cold war against China suddenly due to TikTok.
For once, the election has already passed, and even if there were such deals before it would be stupid to think Trump would follow them now.
Trump now can simply ban TikTok without any consequences as US big tech and media would also probably come running toward him.
Meanwhile, technically he can't go after 3rd term, and if he did, he would become a full-on autocrat, and again, at this point, there would be no elections at this point. You know what's even better for that plan? Provoke a war against China to directly gather more power domestically.
Moreover, did you even hear what his future officials and policymakers have been saying about China in recent days? Tell me Trump doesn't think the same, lol.
There is NO WAY IN HELL, not even a 5% chance that the US accepts peaceful coexistence with China as equals as STATED BY THEM DIRECTLY.
Because structurally US is a ZERO-SUM empire fundamentally, they are incapable of sustaining themselves without an absolute singular global hegemony nowadays due to the changed structure of the economy/society. The US is NOT a POSITIVE-SUM empire like China in essence.
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No actually think about it. If Musk could run a Weibo clone but without the extremely shitty moderation they have on Weibo, maybe it does have a chance. Or if not at least it will whip Weibo, the crappiest of China's social media landscape into shape much like Tesla in early EV days.
I know you're all worried that letting Musk control the censorship power is dangerous but at the moment Weibo's moderation might as well be controlled by a foreign power.
If he follows Chinese laws then you’ll get a version of Twitter where you can criticize Zionism but not the SeeSeePee potentially.
Trump's appointees are all hawkish towards China during their senate confirmation process, most of them aren't China hawks.
The US cannot win a hot war with China now, barely can fight a cold war with China. Xi has already told Trump about the Taiwan question, reunification is likely within these four years, it's just a matter of price now.
That's already better than Weibo now, as Weibo now is almost the exact opposite.
I am sorry, I don't want to be mean, but you obviously don't understand US domestic politics. Mid-term election is critical to Trump 2.0 and existential to GOP beyond Trump 2.0. I have already stated clear in my previous posts on this subject. It is all about self-interests as far as deal is concerned. And I see possible scenarios in which both parties could get what they want. As Trump already said it in a recent interview, the world is already in the de facto G2 era, like it or not to the rest of the world. Biden was trying to gang up west on China, while Trump 2.0 wants to make deal with China and milk the rest of the world. Go figure ...
Of course, there's no losing the dirty underbelly of being a capitalist, but what pisses me off is that this dog seems to have realized that it's actually been pushed into a huge vortex of power, so much so that he seems to think he's worthy of being qualified to bargain with China. While it's true that the power of his words isn't what it used to be, I'd still like to say that this isn't the place for you to be at the table, eOlN.