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GOODTREE

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4Runner

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Is this the deal Trump worked out with Xi? Good God… The Chinese libs are finished…
If we recall how it started, it all started that Google wanted its own way in China and China wanted Google to follow Chinese regulation. Google pulled out and the rest is history. Facebook wanted to be in when Zuch visited Beijing many years ago after the Google exit. Zuch did not get what he wanted even he brought his wife and played Chinese card there. Since then, the common perception is that China bans all US social media, which is not how we got here.

The mega trend in China since the end of Covid is opening up slowly but surely in all domains. If X agrees to Chinese regulation with global version or local version, I would see a likely availability of X in China.

Shanghai Tesla Giga made what Musk is today. Other wise, Tesla would have been sticked to $30B cap at best and might have been struggling financially. I don't think Musk would open his big mouth against China at this juncture. At the end of the day, China still is the market that will determine the future of Tesla. Among things, FSD success in China 2025 is essential to the viability of Tesla global success.
 

Serb

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The fact that Tiktok voluntarily shut down its US service a few hours before an enacted law says a lot, under the circumstances (1) it doesn't have to do so proactively; (2) its CEO is one of the five tech boys invited in Trump's inauguration; (3) Tiktok popup specifically calls out its pending plot with incoming Trump administration. I bet there was already a deal between the "concerned parties" that Tiktok will be back to the US under the Trump administration, and by so doing, Tiktok will be regarded as a pro-GOP social media along with twitter, all the while Chinese government is silent in the background. Chinese government is also uncharacteristically sophisticated in handling the XiaoHongShu situation.

In the coming days and weeks, my guess is that:
(1) Tiktok will resume its service in the US, while "concerned parties" start negotiating a long term solution under the bargaining table.
(2) Tiktok gen Zs will start tilting toward Trump admin which is good for its mid-term election in the near term.
(3) DNC will lose more young voters in the next four years.
(4) Trump 2.0 will relatively be more "friendly" toward China given the sign that Hang Zheng is attending the inauguration and Trump called Xi the day before.
(5) Trump 2.0 will likely be a de facto G2 show on the international stage.


Hard to believe that Trump is going to abandon the existing deep state plans to provoke a hot war and maintain cold war against China suddenly due to TikTok.

For once, the election has already passed, and even if there were such deals before it would be stupid to think Trump would follow them now.

Trump now can simply ban TikTok without any consequences as US big tech and media would also probably come running toward him.

Meanwhile, technically he can't go after 3rd term, and if he did, he would become a full-on autocrat, and again, at this point, there would be no elections at this point. You know what's even better for that plan? Provoke a war against China to directly gather more power domestically.

Moreover, did you even hear what his future officials and policymakers have been saying about China in recent days? Tell me Trump doesn't think the same, lol.

There is NO WAY IN HELL, not even a 5% chance that the US accepts peaceful coexistence with China as equals as STATED BY THEM DIRECTLY.

Because structurally US is a ZERO-SUM empire fundamentally, they are incapable of sustaining themselves without an absolute singular global hegemony nowadays due to the changed structure of the economy/society. The US is NOT a POSITIVE-SUM empire like China in essence.
 
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Temstar

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Hmm... If he just make a Chinese version, then it can't compete with Weibo.
Basically lose all competitiveness.
No actually think about it. If Musk could run a Weibo clone but without the extremely shitty moderation they have on Weibo, maybe it does have a chance. Or if not at least it will whip Weibo, the crappiest of China's social media landscape into shape much like Tesla in early EV days.

I know you're all worried that letting Musk control the censorship power is dangerous but at the moment Weibo's moderation might as well be controlled by a foreign power.
 

siegecrossbow

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No actually think about it. If Musk could run a Weibo clone but without the extremely shitty moderation they have on Weibo, maybe it does have a chance. Or if not at least it will whip Weibo, the crappiest of China's social media landscape into shape much like Tesla in early EV days.

I know you're all worried that letting Musk control the censorship power is dangerous but at the moment Weibo's moderation might as well be controlled by a foreign power.

If he follows Chinese laws then you’ll get a version of Twitter where you can criticize Zionism but not the SeeSeePee potentially.
 

coolgod

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Moreover, did you even hear what his future officials and policymakers have been saying about China in recent days? Tell me Trump doesn't think the same, lol.
Trump's appointees are all hawkish towards China during their senate confirmation process, most of them aren't China hawks.

The US cannot win a hot war with China now, barely can fight a cold war with China. Xi has already told Trump about the Taiwan question, reunification is likely within these four years, it's just a matter of price now.
 
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