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Iracundus

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As such, while Trump may be “bumbling” and many think they have ways to “handle him,” you’ll very likely see these same Reaganite wannabe neocons and literal white nationalist figures from his first term rear their heads again as his new appointees— who want no negotiation or compromise with China other than their delusion of repeating the Soviet collapse. If so, one can expect to see the same kind of intransigent arrogance directed towards China that the Biden administration have shown in refusing to deal with Russia in any meaningful way.

This above. When Trump initiated a trade war, perhaps under the influence of these guys, he issued terms of economic surrender basically as conditions for avoiding the tariffs. They were terms that no leader of any country could seriously consider as it was complete loss of economic sovereignty and abject surrender, and therefore would be political suicide. That is why I think people are mistaken to think there would be any serious deal making when the other side is basically demanding surrender in return for no further punishment. That's not negotiation. It's extortion.

The inherent unconscious racism and arrogance of these guys will also mean they will take any Chinese attempts to de-escalate as weakness, while not taking seriously any Chinese threats of retaliation since their worldview is so unconsciously skewed by their assumptions of white superiority. That is how things could slip into a spiral of escalation.
 

jiajia99

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Germany faces snap election as Scholz's coalition crumbles​

  • Scholz sacks finance minister Lindner over budget disputes
  • Scholz expected to lead minority government with Social Democrats and Greens
  • Political shake-up could benefit populist movements such as AfD


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The meltdown continues in r/europe.
somehow, I think this is too little too late for Germany. Scholz has already destroyed Germany and there is no going back even if they get a new leader. The trust is broken and their is no way things can be fixed over night
 

BlackWindMnt

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I saw in the nasa thread that spacex is going to test starship again and reenter in the Indian ocean. That made me look up rockets for military logistics it actually seem to have been an idea in the 1950s called project icarus. Being able to quickly move hundreds of tons cheaply between US manufacturing hubs and landing platforms in the rest of the world seems like a nice capability to have especially if you can do it on sea based barges.

Do China/russia have such a concept?
 

Index

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I saw in the nasa thread that spacex is going to test starship again and reenter in the Indian ocean. That made me look up rockets for military logistics it actually seem to have been an idea in the 1950s called project icarus. Being able to quickly move hundreds of tons cheaply between US manufacturing hubs and landing platforms in the rest of the world seems like a nice capability to have especially if you can do it on sea based barges.

Do China/russia have such a concept?
It seems extremely unfeasible for US as well. China is entirely focused on its application in strikes, not to deliver stuff.

The more feasible method is by a very fast plane

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But basically only China is working on this. The one that flew is above pic, but there are very exotic theory designs 98f7a2fbca7a4469b9f71cc9ea78b427.jpg

US, I predict, would spend most of its money to make sure they can get a 6th gen not too far after China gets theirs. And also improve missile systems.

The idea of a global strike system has captured imaginations on both sides of the Pacific for a long time, but it is more important to US procurement efforts to get the basics in order before attempting possibly low return expensive projects.
 

supercat

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oh well. old things are fashionable again. This enthusiasm for trade and economic war reminds me the last they tried this, they had similar beliefs
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The guy who wrote that comment knows jack about the multi-polar world we are living in. The US' trade war with China will hardly affect China's GDP because of China's BRI and China's rapid economic integration with the Global South.
 

iewgnem

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I saw in the nasa thread that spacex is going to test starship again and reenter in the Indian ocean. That made me look up rockets for military logistics it actually seem to have been an idea in the 1950s called project icarus. Being able to quickly move hundreds of tons cheaply between US manufacturing hubs and landing platforms in the rest of the world seems like a nice capability to have especially if you can do it on sea based barges.

Do China/russia have such a concept?
Did you consider that your landing platform elsewhere in the world need to have a full sized launch complex, storage for a few thousand tons of cryogenic propellant and a Starship booster on standby? Now calculate how much it cost to blow it up.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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The PLA must emphasize not just quality but also begin a massive and general expansion drive. For example the standing ratio of 300 5th gen to 1000 of theirs shows a poor level of readiness in China,

While there are 1000+ F-35s made overall - Not all of them are going to the USAF, USN and USMC. There are plenty of orders from at least 17 other countries which the F-35 production must fulfill simultaneously.

And how many of those 1000+ F-35s can be realistically deployed to the IndoPac theater?

On the flipside, ALL of the 300+ J-20s (soon to be joined by J-35/As) are going to the PLAAF (and PLAN) only.

Sooner or later, given that both Chengdu and Shenyang ACs are now in the game, China's annual 5th-gen fighter production rate will at least match that of the F-35 - Where absolute majority of those fighters are only going to China. Meanwhile, Lockheed Nartun has pretty much reached its maximum annual production rate for their F-35s across Texas, Italy and Japan.

"Poor level of readiness" is such an oxymoron quote.

as does the lack of ships for the navy. US has deployed nearly 100 major ships, while China only operates 10 large DDGs and a few dozen of escort DDGs.

Meanwhile, how many of those major USN warships are available in the IndoPac theater and are actually ready for deployment against China?

Speaking of "China only operates 10 large DDGs and few dozen escort DDGs" - I just can't describe how wrong you are with that.

Those 052D/DGs aren't escort DDGs - They are proper general-purpose DDGs that are actual high-seas-combat-capable (HSCC) warships. Even without the 055s, the 052D/DGs are fully capable of holding their own against the Flight 1/2/2A Burkes (which presently consists of the absolute majority of the overall Burke fleet).

And while the 055s are officially classified as large DDGs by the PLAN, they are viewed by the Pentagon as CGs, based on the presence of flag facilities onboard.

Moreover, China is fighting right on her own doorsteps, while the US has to bring its forces across pretty much the entire span of the Pacific in order to fight China. One is a homefront war, the other is an expeditionary war. The differences in the magnitude of difficulties and complexities involved for both sides are vast. Did you just decided to throw away the geographical realities of the IndoPac theater?
 
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A potato

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I mean Taiwan is essentially Fujian culture that has no cultural revolution. Everyone talks about stuff that was lost during it but that was assuming all of it was good. I'm pretty sure theres a lot of bad traditions too and here they were no thrown out.
I mean much of the "Cultural Destruction" in the Cultural revolution was ROC propaganda meaning either heavily exaggerated or out right bullshit.
 

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