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US released a video said to be a test of Minute3 icbm..
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HARRIS concession speech
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Another incidemt in Pakistan, shooting hurt CN citizen.
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Anti CN trend in US wont change?
HARRIS concession speech
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Another incidemt in Pakistan, shooting hurt CN citizen.
Anti CN trend in US wont change?
It still much near to equator than any other Greatest civilization every created. these are separate Royal families. Saudis has the Sword in culture while Omanis have dagger in Culture and there dress different. They are all connected by GCC.
There are limitation in desert where basic water and agriculture did not exist so dont expect human skills development that need centuries of large population in an area. Nomads cannot do that.
There top industry is managing people. That management create Soft Power. Even though the are no Arabs involved in this transaction but Russian still use the word North-South ITC so they know everything is about them. and the whole system is created to positively engage Iran into Arabic system.
On the subject of the Han and Tang's intentions:
The Han conquest of the south was almost entirely a matter of taking over the previous Qin commanderies (and Vietnam, which got included because Qin general-turned-warlord Zhao Tuo annexed it during the Qin collapse to reinforce his personal base. Yunnan's kingdoms submitted voluntarily). Han conquests in the east were based on taking over Wiman Joseon, which was led by renegade Yan general Wei Man and controlled the ancient Yan territory of Liaodong. The Han was focused on eliminating Chinese rivals, and barbarians only got included if they happened to be serving those Chinese rivals. Only in the north and west, the Han went all out to recruit Xiongnu subjects as allies against the existential Xiongnu threat, but that is why Southern Xiongnu became a vassal, and the Western Regions were called "Protectorate" 都护府, not province 州 or commandery, county 郡县.
The Tang based their conquests on the same Han borders (not all successfully), with the same exception of the northern and western protectorates. In fact, the Tang didn't even bother to go further south then what the Southern Dynasties had been hanging onto since Han times, and even redesignated Vietnam as a protectorate to exempt their chiefs from the normal bureaucratic system. This exemption was inevitable because the Southern Dynasties had already tried and failed to implement central government control in Vietnam, causing many rebellions (Catherine Churchman, The People between the Rivers).
From the Song onwards, no Chinese dynasty (with the exception of the Mongols of Yuan who believed that Tengri wanted them to literally conquer every inch of the earth) would ever again try to annex previously unclaimed territories. The Ming only started to take an interest in Taiwan because of the subjugation of Chinese warlord Zheng Zhilong who already had bases on Taiwan, and then the Qing had to take it because the Zheng family entrenched themselves there. Even the Qianlong emperor had to argue with his officials that the Western Regions belongs to China because of the Han and Tang, and therefore they should stop objecting to his annexation of it.
The one and only truly expansionist Chinese emperor was actually Qin Shihuang, who was also very unusual in many other ways. Let's not fuel this Sinophobic myth that China has always wanted to conquer the world. The tributary relations that China always preferred was a two-way, mutually-beneficial arrangement, not some semi-colonial scheme.
On the question of holding on to Vietnam:
After Tang, no dynasty had the strength to recover Vietnam until the Ming. Song was weak. Yuan's Mongol casteism made them so unpopular that ethnic Han went to Vietnam to help them fight Mongols. Even the Ming decided to give up after 20 years because Vietnam was economically useless and the Mongols were a more pressing issue to focus on. AND most importantly: After the 20 years of Ming sinicization of Vietnam, Vietnam centralised and professionalised its government (the previous Tran dynasty was mostly governed by imperial relatives in each province), became more powerful than ever and conquered from the Tonkin Gulf to the Mekong Delta. After that, reconquest was impossible.
AssassinsMace
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Why the US has a problem dealing with China is it's its own market like the US. No other country can say that. When the EU whines about overcapacity which by their definition is producing more than what you need as a country and the excess is exported is by the very definition every other country that doesn't have their own large market but is dependent on exports, i.e. all the US's allies, who want to have first world economies. What's different for China from the US is the US is a saturated market while China's still has room to grow even more. That's why the US even with its large market can't do much more than what they're doing now. That's why the US can't open its market more to help even its closest allies in dire need for more money to feed it first world tastes.
The irony is that the US needs the China market in order for the world to follow lock-step inline with US policies. Look at how because they don't control China how the world revolts against Western-led institutions and organizations. The US can't even persuade other countries with money to choose them because the US doesn't offer them a better deal. So what makes them think it'll happened with Trump as President? Trump has threatened countries that don't use the dollar with tariffs. The US won't impose tariffs on what the US needs from the rest of the world so the threat of tariffs is empty because the US can't impose tariffs on what others sell to China.
The irony is that the US needs the China market in order for the world to follow lock-step inline with US policies. Look at how because they don't control China how the world revolts against Western-led institutions and organizations. The US can't even persuade other countries with money to choose them because the US doesn't offer them a better deal. So what makes them think it'll happened with Trump as President? Trump has threatened countries that don't use the dollar with tariffs. The US won't impose tariffs on what the US needs from the rest of the world so the threat of tariffs is empty because the US can't impose tariffs on what others sell to China.
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What's wrong with Europeans? Shit like this is why I'm glad trump won
This is as delusional as thinking China will turn on Russia and abandon BRICS if US drops tariff and "let" China take Taiwan.
Losers don't get to make bargains, losers only gets to lose more.
AssassinsMace
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Europe's weakness is they need to have a first world status economy. That's why they suffered in the 2008 Western Financial Crisis. They had to borrow money they couldn't make on their own in order to look like a first world country. They have to have the best of everything to do that. They have to be envied for it. How else are they going to preach to the world they know what's best when they don't have the best? The US ain't going to be providing a cheaper alternative. Guess who they'll have to go to? Again they want in on the China market. They can't ignore China like the US wants them too. It's too big of an opportunity for them to take a pass. That's why eventually Europe and the US will have to change direction because they need China to make money from. It's a game of chicken and they'll be the ones who'll veer off first or be left behind.
I see a lot of hope that a Trump presidency will weaken US-EU relations but I think people underestimate the level of cuck-ness the Euros are willing to sink to.
I'm betting on EU prostituting themselves to US even further regarding their China policy in a bid to appease Trump.