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supersnoop

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They'll probably do what they do best: commit war crimes against the locals, then write a book about how it gave them PTSD and makes them sad because 4th of July fireworks causes them to murder-suicide their families.
Most likely they would help extract the Taiwanese head of government. There is basically no other role. Not much Seal Team 6 can do against cruise missiles, drones, ballistic missiles, hi-caliber artillery rockets, glide bombs, etc. etc.

The US would then annoy all Chinese to death with their stupid Taiwanese government in exile, but not actually care because they are travelling on the new Fuzhou-Taipei HSR rail line.
 

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Looks like China backed down and basically gave away land 1 and 2. Are these concessions really necessary for India to cooperate at BRICS?
I really hope Chinese leadership are getting something good out of this. Otherwise this is caving in.

That's the problem with a lot of these decisions. You don't get to see any results until way later.
 

GulfLander

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Looks like China backed down and basically gave away land 1 and 2. Are these concessions really necessary for India to cooperate at BRICS?

I really hope Chinese leadership are getting something good out of this. Otherwise this is caving in.

That's the problem with a lot of these decisions. You don't get to see any results until way later.
Will that affect the joint statement from sept 10, 2020 Mr Sawhney is referring to in this tweet?

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clever claims, the reality is: 1. We have not gone back to May 2020 situation since only disengagement has been done. There has been no de-escalation of forces. PLA continues to occupy over 2,000 sqkm of our territory. 2. PLA's occupation of our territory is it's response to Modi gov having created new map of Ladakh showing Aksai Chin as its part. Aksai Chin was never Indian territory & China told
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this when he visited Beijing on 11 August 2019. Since India did nothing on this, PLA moved it's forces to it's 1959 Claim Line in Ladakh at most places without firing a shot. It was tit for tat. 3. What
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is claiming today was actually offered by China at the diplomats meeting in Beijing on 29 August. Modi gov kept it's response to China's concession given then under wraps to disclose just before Modi departure for BRICS summit. Playing games is meaningless when our forces are sitting at heights of over 15,000 feet at LAC. 4. At the 29 August meeting, China had offered two concessions: it agreed to Indian position that east Ladakh be settled before Yangte in Arunachal Pradesh. And, China proposed both sides move back two kms at Depsang & Demchok. Once this is done, both could patrol the buffer zone by informing the other side. 5. China, like Russia is keen that Modi work wholeheartedly for BRICS & SCO which will help Global South nations stabilise global geopolitics quicker. "
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coolgod

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Will that affect the joint statement from sept 10, 2020 Mr Sawhney is referring to in this tweet?

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clever claims, the reality is: 1. We have not gone back to May 2020 situation since only disengagement has been done. There has been no de-escalation of forces. PLA continues to occupy over 2,000 sqkm of our territory. 2. PLA's occupation of our territory is it's response to Modi gov having created new map of Ladakh showing Aksai Chin as its part. Aksai Chin was never Indian territory & China told
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this when he visited Beijing on 11 August 2019. Since India did nothing on this, PLA moved it's forces to it's 1959 Claim Line in Ladakh at most places without firing a shot. It was tit for tat. 3. What
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is claiming today was actually offered by China at the diplomats meeting in Beijing on 29 August. Modi gov kept it's response to China's concession given then under wraps to disclose just before Modi departure for BRICS summit. Playing games is meaningless when our forces are sitting at heights of over 15,000 feet at LAC. 4. At the 29 August meeting, China had offered two concessions: it agreed to Indian position that east Ladakh be settled before Yangte in Arunachal Pradesh. And, China proposed both sides move back two kms at Depsang & Demchok. Once this is done, both could patrol the buffer zone by informing the other side. 5. China, like Russia is keen that Modi work wholeheartedly for BRICS & SCO which will help Global South nations stabilise global geopolitics quicker. "
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Doesn't look like it, considering this concession China gave already occurred back in Aug 29th. For the past two months, India's anti-China rhetoric didn't get any better, that's some nice preparation for a Xi-Modi meeting.
 

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I really hope Chinese leadership are getting something good out of this. Otherwise this is caving in.

That's the problem with a lot of these decisions. You don't get to see any results until way later.
This is pragmatic-albeit temporarily annoying -diplomacy and statecraft-give and take negotiations for gains on the ground,reduction of tensions etc.Something "vishwaguru"Modi and company just doesn't understand or do.Remember when Deng and China had to compensate France and Britain and other European countries many millions of dollars for their loss of property/business etc in China The Shanghai Bund,Shandong,colonial businesses etc.It grated on me to no end BUT in the end to normalize diplomatic/business relationships to access markets,to open windows on knowledge/developments worldwide -it was well worth it-now look at China and its dominant power dynamics in EVERY sphere.The same can be said of the Sino-Japanese business/diplomatic initiative by Beijing -many times in magnitude of historic connotations,blood debt, BUT a sane ,controlled,pragmatic sense of working toward a better,fuller stronger future for China-look at the China-Japan dynamic NOW-no doubt China is ascendant and ascending.Glad to have lived to see this day-and soon,soon, full Taiwan reunification and further diminution of our enemies.
 
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