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proelite

proelite

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supersnoop said:
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Whole thing sounds like nonsense. 5G is not an American technology.



Just factually wrong…
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If this article is true the most troubling aspect for the US is that their officials are completely clueless about the technology they're supposed to police, which means the article is probably true.

When China's domestic EUV machines reach volume production and the first evidence of that is sub-5nm chips, it's ASML gonna be in big trouble with daddy SAM because no way the Chinese have the technology to make 3nm chips? lol
 
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proelite said:
If this article is true the most troubling aspect for the US is that their officials are completely clueless about the technology they're supposed to police, which means the article is probably true.

When China's domestic EUV machines reach volume production and the first evidence of that is sub-5nm chips, it's ASML gonna be in big trouble with daddy SAM because no way the Chinese have the technology to make 3nm chips? lol
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US going after ASML after China develops EUV would be win-win.
China always finds win-win solutions, and it sometimes means China wins twice.
 
FriedButter

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supersnoop said:
So sick of hearing this nonsense.
TSMC equipment is not some magic bullet. Most of TSMC’s expertise is human, not equipment. Samsung and Intel have access to the exact same equipment and neither have captured the same market share as TSMC.
Even if an EUV equipment is captured, who would service it?
This is just typical US media talking points for the stupid masses
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It becomes a domestic political issue. Just like the nonsense in Ukraine and the irrational decisions being made there for PR. For China, the status of TSMC isn’t going to matter for them. However, the US for political reasons cannot accept China taking even a single concrete brick from a wall. The ruling politicians and military leaders will get crucified by their opportunistic political opposition and general public.
 
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GZDRefugee said:
I mean I would defect for 5 Xibucks. But that's just me.
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Liang Mong Song got a lot more than 5 Xibucks...

proelite said:
If this article is true the most troubling aspect for the US is that their officials are completely clueless about the technology they're supposed to police, which means the article is probably true.

When China's domestic EUV machines reach volume production and the first evidence of that is sub-5nm chips, it's ASML gonna be in big trouble with daddy SAM because no way the Chinese have the technology to make 3nm chips? lol
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What do you expect from a government full of Liberal Arts majors and Lawyers?

FriedButter said:
It becomes a domestic political issue. Just like the nonsense in Ukraine and the irrational decisions being made there for PR. For China, the status of TSMC isn’t going to matter for them. However, the US for political reasons cannot accept China taking even a single concrete brick from a wall. The ruling politicians and military leaders will get crucified by their opportunistic political opposition and general public.
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Yes, but I would hope that SDF readers know a bit better, it's not even worth discussing here. It's so exceedingly stupid. Like why would China have a plan to take over Taiwan for EUV technology instead of, you know, just having a plan to develop EUV technology?
 
coolgod

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proelite said:
In my opinion, China got a stepping stone toward a full border agreement.
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I took a look at Indian social media, many don't seem happy cause they think if China gave concessions, that means China must have stolen more Indian land previously. What would a full border agreement achieve? China and India previously had border agreements before, didn't stop Indians from playing with fire along the border.

India won't change its anti-China strategy regardless of the border since it believes it can gain more from the US antagonizing China.
 
proelite

proelite

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coolgod said:
I took a look at Indian social media, many don't seem happy cause they think if China gave concessions, that means China must have stolen more Indian land previously. What would a full border agreement achieve? China and India previously had border agreements before, didn't stop Indians from playing with fire along the border.

India won't change its anti-China strategy regardless of the border since it believes it can gain more from US cooperating against China.
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I was referring to border agreements like the Sino-Soviet and Sino-Vietnam border agreements. Once that's there, it's the end of border problems for good.
 
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