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Quan8410

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coolgod said:
No. We are also not bringing monarch back, nor child marriages.
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Monarch itself is not bad or good. Democracy itself is not bad or good either. Communism itself is not bad or good either. It all depends on how the leaders do their jobs. Polygamy is not bad either. You have wealth and you can persuave women to marry you and you can provide them for life. Same for women, they can marry multiple husband too if they can persuave your husbands to share. It's just the way of biology make it much harder for women to have multiple husbands.
 
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Iracundus said:
I think such statements can serve a purpose. It is a gesture to show the rest of the world that China can act mature and conciliatory, leaving a way to de-escalate tension even if the US doesn't take it. That can help build more goodwill among the Global South nations. It's not about trying to sway the majority opinion in the West anymore.

However even within the West, there are some groups like businessmen or other interest groups that do not want to see more escalation or outright war. Such gestures help them oppose further attempts by the US government to escalate, and it also tries to divide opinion so that there is not unanimous resolve within the population to unite in opposition to China. If China acted like the implacable existential threat and hostile bogeyman that the xenophobes are trying to portray it as, then these more moderate people would also turn against because they would feel threatened themselves.

Basically I think it follows Chinese strategies of not closing off all lines of retreat for the enemy. If they are cornered and surrounded they will unite and fight even more fiercely. If they have a way to back down or retreat, then their resolve for an existential fight will be weaker and they may either not escalate to a fight or be more willing to cut and run when there are setbacks.
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The bet way to describe it is:

Hey man, we gave you a chance. You don't wanna take it? That's your problem. Don't start whining now.

It becomes even sweeter after you win because you can use it to rub it in their faces and they can't say crap because well..it really was their problem to not take the higher road.

Honestly it kinda only works if you are confident that you will win though.
 
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Sardaukar20

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Arij Javaid said:
Like I said. If he's bluffing, then its fine. But as long as Taiwan isn't reunified and US isn't shown its place. China and US can never be friends.
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Xi Jinping doesn't bluff. That is not the way he works. When he is saying "Let's be friends" to the Americans, he meant it as a doublespeak. This is not the same as Yoon or Modi doing it. Xi is speaking from the position of a nation with the largest economy by PPP, the largest industrial power on earth, the largest trading nation on earth, and in command of a military that can rain thermonuclear destruction on the CONUS.

When Xi says "let's be friends" it is both a friendly gesture and a veiled threat. He was saying it from a position of equality to the US. When Yoon says the same thing to the US, he was grovelling to them. When Modi does it, he was ass-kissing with a knife behind his back. Because both Yoon and Modi speak from a position of vast inferiority to the US.
 
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bajingan said:
I believe this is called managing the u.s decline, China doesn't want to drive someone who's declining but still strong into a do or die situation. Someone here said it before "You want to put the lunatic into the straitjacket as smoothly as possible and with minimum drama"
I believe this is what China is doing.
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I do remember that when the Soviet Union fell the west feared that the collapsing giant might lash out at USA /europe in its political -economic death throes but no such thing happened.Now I greatly fear that if the USA/west declined below a certain point it is they who will lash out and "clear the board" because they are in danger of losing the game.China-peace through strength-there is no other way and a storm is coming.
 
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