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When great powers like China or Russia talks with this "submissive tone", it is quite different from smaller nations doing it. It is a kind of doublespeak. They know that they have the strength to hurt the West if they have to. But they still extend their hand out like gentlemen to give peace a chance. When the West or India slaps that hand away, at least they can turn to everyone else and say that its wasn't them who wanted to escalate the fight.
Xi and Putin are wise leaders, they try to always give peace a chance. They are professional statesmen. They cannot be compared to man-children like Trump and Modi who talks tough all the time. When they speak, they really mean business, even when it sounds "weak". Yes, the West, India, and the dogs will always interpret their diplomatic tone as "weakness". And so some of them are learning the true meaning of FAFO.
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A bit more would be nice, to signal deterrence internally.
To Americans, who is now more likely to win presidential election in USA? I've seen polymarket bets % and Dotard is more likely to win based on this. How reliable is that data?
making war is not an easy thing, nor something one should take lightly. Once war begins, gone will be any chance of reconciliation for at least a generation. If there is to be war, it must necessarily be a war to conquer the five eyes. Anything less than that is a waste of good Chinese lives. The logistics to take North America for instance do not yet exist…yet.
Xi hasn't learned his lesson at all. You don't try to show restraint and hesitance. The west sees it as a weakness, not maturity.
Ask Russia, Muslim world how showing restraint and hesitance were treated by the west.
I don't know what Xi is trying to accomplish with these statements. Or either he's simply bluffing. Because at some point china will have to reunify Taiwan by force and the US will intervene.
US and china can never be friends in the coming decades. The reason is Taiwan.
Xi needs to accept the reality and stop with these appeasements. Putin is openly supplying weapons to anti-western forces across the world and that is already having an effect.
I don't even think Xi will arm Iran if Iran gets invaded by US.
In 2020, the bookies all had Trump at lower payouts (in other words higher chances of winning) but of course he didn't. Now, the post-2020 election analysis showed that even before the election sites like Nate Silver's 538 showed the polls were actually against Trump. There are stories from back then about how people did stupid things like take out mortgages and bet it on Trump, thinking it was a sure thing only to disastrously lose. Remember at the end of the day, these betting sites don't make predictions themselves. It is like a poll of its own in that people place bets and that shifts the odds. All those people dumping money betting on Trump lowered the payout odds and someone looking at that might think that meant Trump was likely to win.
This year the polls seem to show them neck and neck but it has been argued that polls are increasingly unreliable due to their methodology, which often relies on calling people. Who are the people that have home phones and are there to answer them in the day? This could skew the sample towards older aged, unemployed, or otherwise housebound people.
WTF are all these crazy takes about Xi's message to friendly CEOs of China in US. This message was in Xi's letter and he writes to or speaks at the gala dinner of the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations every year. There is absolutely no reason to read the tea leaves here, China is just telling the US business community we won't go banning and sanctioning every western company, everyone can make money together. The National Committee on U.S.-China Relations pushed for the normalization of US-PRC in the old days, no need to act hostile to them.
The live stream video of the gala and some speeches
It's not just about this latest speech. It's a series of patterns. His visit to San Francisco was pointless.
Why appease a country that spends $500 million on propaganda against you?
manqiangrexue
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What appeasement? Saying that the US and China can be friends? LOL Why? Western leaders can lie to us every time they open their mouths but Xi has to wear his heart on his sleeve? He has to tell Americans point blank that there is nothing but confrontation between China and the US for the coming decades? Only Kim Jong Un talks like that. China can say whatever seems gentlemanly just as they do while the redouble our efforts to crush them in the tech war, the econ war, and prepare to do so if they dare engage in a hot war. That's the "appeasement" they get. Speak softly but carry a big stick.