Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

broadsword

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

If terrorism was involved and China was the target, the plane was more likely to stay en-route to China rather than turn back. While past hijackings have taken place in other than the countries in dispute, China's terrorists have a different orientation.
 

xiabonan

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

Apart from the four navy ships that China has sent, today China had just deployed nearly ten satellites to help facilitate the search. These include the Haiyang (ocean observing satellite), FengYun(weather forecasting satellite), YaoGan (remote sensing), and the GaoFen( high resolution) satellites. Some of these satellites changed their orbit and disrupted their original tasks to carry out this emergency task. Besides, the Beidou system is also being heavily used to help rescue ships navigate and locate themselves.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

Heard on the radio of the press conference. The spokesman, when questioned by a reporter, denied that the two false passport holders were Asian looking. He did not know who she heard from. The oil slick belonged to the type used by barges.

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delft

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I remain interested in the technical side of this question:
Passenger aircraft carry emergency beacons that should be heard by any searching aircraft that comes within range but also by satellites in low earth orbit. The beacon should survive a crash on land and float free when the aircraft falls into the sea. Was the battery in that beacon not replaced in time? What else can have happened?
 

broadsword

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

I remain interested in the technical side of this question:
Passenger aircraft carry emergency beacons that should be heard by any searching aircraft that comes within range but also by satellites in low earth orbit. The beacon should survive a crash on land and float free when the aircraft falls into the sea. Was the battery in that beacon not replaced in time? What else can have happened?



I believe it is well out of range since the search party does not seem to know where to close in yet. Here it says the transponder of the MH370 was not transmitting information and a little about the flight data recorder itself. The FDR can ping for 30 days and survive to a depth of 6000 meters. I don't know the maximum range but it degrades over time.


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One of two suspects using stolen passports identified, "The man is not from XinJiang China.", according to IGP (Inspector General of Police). He cannot divulge which country he is from yet
 
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joshuatree

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This is really becoming mind boggling. Even if the plane supposedly disintegrated at a high altitude, there should be debris. So far, not a single piece of debris related to the plane has turned up.

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China's Defence Ministry yesterday announced it would deploy 10 satellites to hunt for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet carrying 239 people on board after three days of fruitless searching.

The control centre in Xian will relieve the satellites of other tasks to step up weather monitoring, communication and search operations in the area where the flight disappeared early on Saturday morning, the ministry said on its website.

The announcement came as Beijing said it would expand the search and called for Malaysia to strengthen its efforts to look for the plane.

This followed several false leads from the sighting of debris and oil slicks thought to have come from flight MH 370 that vanished en route to Beijing.

The area of the search would be widened from today, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, the head of Malaysia's Civil Aviation Authority, told reporters.

Three Chinese civilian ships and the frigate Mianyang arrived yesterday and another three ships are on the way to the area where the plane lost contact.

Hong Kong's Civil Aviation Department said it had received a report from the crew of a Cathay Pacific Hong Kong-Kuala Lumpur flight at about 3pm that debris was spotted near Vung Tau, in the southeast Vietnam. The department said it had notified its counterparts in Vietnam, Malaysia and Hainan province.

This location was about 125 kilometres southeast of the supposed flight path of 370, which should have been flying over Ho Chi Minh City.

Thai police and Interpol questioned the proprietors of a travel agency in the resort town of Pattaya that sold one-way tickets to two men now known to have been travelling on flight MH370 using stolen passports.

Malaysia's police chief was quoted by local media as saying that one of the men had been identified.

Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said they were of "non-Asian" appearance. He added that authorities were looking at the possibility they were connected to a stolen passport syndicate.

The Thai travel agent who arranged the tickets for the two passengers using the stolen passports said she had booked them on the flight via Beijing because they were the cheapest tickets, the Financial Times reported.

The agent said an Iranian business contact she knew only as "Mr Ali" had asked her to book tickets for the men on March 1.

She had initially booked them on other airlines but those reservations expired and on March 6, Mr Ali had asked her to book them again. She told the newspaper she did not think Mr Ali, who paid her in cash and booked tickets with her regularly, was linked to terrorism

In Beijing, with no confirmation that the Boeing 777 had crashed, hundreds of distraught relatives waited anxiously for news. About 200 family of passengers criticised the lack of help from the Chinese and Malaysian governments.

Malaysia Airlines last night said it was providing 31,000 yuan for relatives of each passenger on board Flight 370, "not as compensation, but a special condolence payment for the families".

Meanwhile, in a press conference held on Phu Quoc Island last night, Vietnam's vice transport minister Pham Quy Tieu said debris spotted by the Singapore authorities earlier were not from the missing plane.

Rescue helicopters and ships searching for the jet yesterday rushed to investigate a yellow object that looked like a life-raft. It turned out to be moss-covered floating rubbish.

Meanwhile, Li Jiaxiang , China's minister of Civil Aviation Adminstration, would not comment whether they suspected an earlier terrorist attack warning about Beijing-bound flight was related to the missing plane.

Taiwan's spy chief confirmed yesterday morning that the island had received a warning of possible terrorist attacks in China as the mainland hold its annual parliamentary session.

National Security Bureau head Tsai De-sheng told a legislative committee that the NSB passed on a warning of planned attacks against Beijing airport and the city's subway system to Chinese authorities on March 4.

It comes as China's National People's Congress holds its annual session, which closes on Thursday.
 

chuck731

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Yea but even then all of my skepticism still stand strong. Plus, what kinda terrorist makes a plane disappear??!!

The kind that smuggles a bomb onto a plane? Or even fly a plane into the sea?

A plane that disappears stays in the news until it is found. You have to admit that is just as well from the point of the view of the terrorists.
 
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delft

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The kind that smuggles a bomb onto a plane? Or even fly a plane into the sea?
If the aircraft was destroyed by a bomb at altitude or if it hit the sea, either violently or "softly", there should be plenty of debris. That debris should have been found by now. So did it fly on to Vietnam or back to Malaysia and crashed on land? It should have been seen by radar but even if not we expect a big fire from all that fuel on board or, if the fuel tanks were not broached, we expect to hear from survivors. So what happened?????
 
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getready

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I believe it is well out of range since the search party does not seem to know where to close in yet. Here it says the transponder of the MH370 was not transmitting information and a little about the flight data recorder itself. The FDR can ping for 30 days and survive to a depth of 6000 meters. I don't know the maximum range but it degrades over time.


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One of two suspects using stolen passports identified, "The man is not from XinJiang China.", according to IGP (Inspector General of Police). He cannot divulge which country he is from yet

I think it has been revealed now that they were from Iran

edit. Oops sorry I think it was revealed an Iranian bought the tickets through an agent?
 
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AssassinsMace

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Last night I went to bed reading the two with the stolen passports were Asian looking. Now I wake up and they're reported to be not Asian looking. That's why I instinctively didn't believe the report of the door being found floating as part of the wreckage. Just a door? Nothing else in the water?
 
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