Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

bluewater2012

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News reported the plane Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's family members moved away from their home an day before the plane went missing. Also, revealed he is an member of the opposition party in Malaysia and that he had overheard an court ruling hours before the plane went missing.

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The father-of-three was a fervent support of Anwar Ibrahim - jailed for homosexuality only hours before flight MH370 disappeared

Fears emerged tonight that the pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet may have hijacked the plane himself as an anti-government protest.

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a fervent supporter of his country's opposition leader who was jailed for homosexuality - illegal in Malaysia - only hours before flight MH370 vanished with 239 passengers and crew on board, the Sunday Mirror can reveal.

And in a new twist, it emerged that the pilot's wife and three children moved out of the family's home the day before the plane's disappearance.


In related news, according to Osama Bin Laden son in-law own testified statement:
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Evidence of a plot by Malaysian Islamists to hijack a passenger jet in a 9/11-style attack is being investigated in connection with the disappearance of Flight MH370

An al-Qaeda supergrass told a court last week that four to five Malaysian men had been planning to take control of a plane, using a bomb hidden in a shoe to blow open the cockpit door.

Security experts said the evidence from a convicted British terrorist was “credible”. The supergrass said that he had met the Malaysian jihadists – one of whom was a pilot – in Afghanistan and given them a shoe bomb to use to take control of an aircraft.

A British security source said: “These spectaculars take a long time in the planning.”

The possibility of such a plot, hatched by the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers in New York, was bolstered by an admission by Najib Razak, Malaysia’s prime minister, that the Boeing 777’s communications systems had been deliberately switched off “by someone on the plane”.

Also an passenger on board that plane is being suspected with an background in airplane engineering. Only info provided is the person is born in China, went to Turkey for education, then went to Switzerland to learn airplane engineering. No ethnicity disclosed.
 

B.I.B.

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I don't think he could find a decent airport to land safely at night, one that was lit and still NOT connected to the outside world. Wherever he flew to it during the 5 to 7 hours was pitch black. Most likely, the jet plunged into the ocean, taking with it the lives of everyone on board.


OKkkkkkkkkk Do you think it was done by one person who had a late in the day meltdown and always intended to crash the plane. If the objective was to land the plane somewhere as a protest of some sort, wouldn't it be safer to do it during the day.
 

Blackstone

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News reported the plane Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's family members moved away from their home an day before the plane went missing. Also, revealed he is an member of the opposition party in Malaysia and that he had overheard an court ruling hours before the plane went missing.

In related news, according to Osama Bin Laden son in-law own testified statement...[/uote]

Problem is, evidence show Captain Shah is a democrat and not an Islamist.

Also an passenger on board that plane is being suspected with an background in airplane engineering. Only info provided is the person is born in China, went to Turkey for education, then went to Switzerland to learn airplane engineering. No ethnicity disclosed.
Interesting lead for the authorities to track down. I hope Malayan investigators are up to it.
 

broadsword

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OKkkkkkkkkk Do you think it was done by one person who had a late in the day meltdown and always intended to crash the plane.

We don't know enough yet about the pilots.


If the objective was to land the plane somewhere as a protest of some sort, wouldn't it be safer to do it during the day.

I agree. It was not the perpetrator's objective to land.
 

broadsword

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In related news, according to Osama Bin Laden son in-law own testified statement:
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It is obvious the conspiracy did not result on MH370. It was 7 years from the time the co-pilot enrolled in flight school. The media loves to churn wild possibilities and brainstorm absurd theories.
 

broadsword

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ACARS switched off before last radio message


Probe zeroes in on pilots


PETALING JAYA: The revelation that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370’s Aircraft Communications and Reporting System was switched off before its last radio message was sent has brought the focus of investigations back to the pilots.

Mystery of MH370

Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein told the media yesterday that the ACARS was turned off before the message.

Previously, it was reported that the system was turned off after the last voice contact.

The pilot had said: “All right, good night” as Malaysian Air Traffic Control handed over the plane’s monitoring to Vietnam.

However, it was still not known whether it was the voice of flight captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah or co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid before the plane carrying 239 passengers and crew disappeared from radar and veered off course 10 days ago.

ACARs provides satellites detailed information about a plane’s movements and current status.

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar said police had searched the home of Zaharie in Shah Alam.

He said the pilot’s self assembled flight simulator was being looked at by experts as part of the investigation, adding that investigators had also searched the co-pilot’s home.

The IGP said police had classified the investigation under Section 130C of the Penal Code, which allows for investigation into offences of hijacking, sabotage, act of terrorism and also crimes under the Aviation Offences Act, adding that procedures under the Security Offences (Special Measures) Act 2012 (Sosma) would apply with the new classification of the probe.

“That means we have intensified our investigations. Our focus remains in the four areas — hijacking, sabotage, personal problems and psychological problems — and that includes the ground staff, everybody,” he said at yesterday’s press conference on MH370.

The IGP said police awaited replies from several foreign police agencies on the background checks of the passengers on the plane. However, all 227 had been cleared by several foreign intelligence agencies.

Asked if this brought the focus of the probe to the pilot and the co-pilot, he said: “Investigations would involve everyone on the plane.”

Earlier, Hishammuddin said all MAS ground staff involved in the handling of MH370 were also investigated, along with the airline’s engineers who were in contact with the aircraft before it took off.

The father of 29-year-old aviation engineer Mohd Khairul Amri Selamat, who was on the jet, refused to comment on speculations that someone aboard deliberately turned off its communications system.

“I cannot say if the aircraft was hijacked or not,” he said. “Let the authorities investigate the case. I have nothing else to say,” said Selamat Omar, when contacted yesterday.
 

Air Force Brat

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It sounds like the Malaysian government has been withholding a lot of vital information.

Once you begin to suspect foul play, you do lock down certain evidence and information, hoping to not "polute" the pool of evidence with you own information, backwashing in from other sources. You isolate those "information streams" to allow the pool to clear, in order to see what is flowing in, those who have information, tend to want to "help", unless they themselves are implicated???? so who would you give the information too??? the western authorities love to "extoll" their knowledge in cases like this, and the western media, "LOVES" a juicy story, hijacking or psycho-path, its all good to sell stories.

So, if you're smart, you shut up and listen?????? someone will want to "impress" you with their knowledge, they will come to you with leads, you just have to follow them, no matter how bizarre????
 

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Malaysian plane saga highlights air defense gaps

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(Reuters) - Whatever truly happened to missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, its apparently unchallenged wanderings through Asian skies point to major gaps in regional - and perhaps wider - air defenses.

More than a decade after al Qaeda hijackers turned airliners into weapons on September 11, 2001, a large commercial aircraft completely devoid of stealth features appeared to vanish with relative ease.

On Saturday, Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak said authorities now believed the Boeing 777 flew for nearly seven hours after disappearing early on March 8. Either its crew or someone else on the plane disabled the on-board transponder civilian air traffic radar used to track it, investigators believe.

It appears to have first flown back across the South China Sea - an area of considerable geopolitical tension and military activity - before overflying northern Malaysia and then heading out towards India without any alarm being raised.

The reality, analysts and officials say, is that much of the airspace over water - and in many cases over land - lacks sophisticated or properly monitored radar coverage.

Analysts say the gaps in Southeast Asia's air defenses are likely to be mirrored in other parts of the developing world, and may be much greater in areas with considerably lower geopolitical tensions.

"Several nations will be embarrassed by how easy it is to trespass their airspace," said Air Vice Marshal Michael Harwood, a retired British Royal Air Force pilot and ex-defense attache to Washington DC. "Too many movies and Predator (unmanned military drone) feeds from Afghanistan have suckered people into thinking we know everything and see everything. You get what you pay for. And the world, by and large, does not pay."

"TOO EXPENSIVE"

Air traffic systems rely almost entirely on on-board transponders to detect and monitor aircraft. In this case, those systems appear to have been deactivated around the time the aircraft crossed from Malaysian to Vietnamese responsibility.

At the very least, the incident looks set to spark calls to make it impossible for those on board an aircraft to turn off its transponders and disappear.

Military systems, meanwhile, are often limited in their own coverage or just ignore aircraft they believe are on regular commercial flights. In some cases, they are simply switched off except during training and when a threat is expected.

That, one senior Indian official said, might explain why the Boeing 777 was not detected by installations on India's Andaman and Nicobar Islands, an archipelago which its planes were searching on Friday and Saturday, or elsewhere.

"We have many radar systems operating in this area, but nothing was picked up," Rear Admiral Sudhir Pillai, chief of staff of India's Andamans and Nicobar Command, told Reuters. "It's possible that the military radars were switched off as we operate on an 'as required' basis."

Separately, a defense source said that India did not keep its radar facilities operational at all times because of cost. Asked what the reason was, the source said: "Too expensive."

"SOMEONE ELSE'S PROBLEM"

Worries over revealing defense capabilities, some believe, may have slowed cooperation in the search for flight MH370, particularly between Malaysia and China. Beijing has poured military resources into the search, announcing it was deploying 10 surveillance satellites and multiple ships and aircraft. It has been critical of Malaysia's response.

While Malaysian military radar does appear to have detected the aircraft, there appear to have been no attempts to challenge it - or, indeed, any realization anything was amiss.

That apparent oversight, current and former officials and analysts say, is surprising. But the incident, they say, points to the relatively large gaps in global air surveillance and the limits of some military radar systems.

"It's hard to tell exactly why they did not notice it," says Elizabeth Quintana, senior research fellow for air power at the Royal United Services Institute in London. "It may have been that the aircraft was flying at low level or that the military operators were looking for other threats such as fast jets and felt that airliners were someone else's problem."

Current and former officials say that - hopefully, at least - such an incident would be detected much faster in North American or European airspace. There, military and civilian controllers monitor radar continuously on alert for possible hijacks or intruders.

The sudden failure of a transponder, they say, would itself prove a likely and dramatic cause for concern.

"I can't think of many situations in which one would actually need to switch them off," said one former Western official on condition of anonymity.

U.S. and NATO jets periodically scramble to intercept unidentified aircraft approaching their airspace, including a growing number of Russian long-range bombers.

In some other areas, it is simply not seen as worth maintaining a high level of alert - or radar coverage itself may not even exist.

"NOTHING MUCH HAPPENS AT NIGHT"

Investigators now say they believe MH370 may have turned either towards India and Central Asia or - perhaps more likely, given the lack of detection - taken a southern course towards the Antarctic. That would have been an effectively suicidal flight, the aircraft eventually running out of fuel and crashing.

The waters of the southern Indian Ocean and northern Southern Ocean are among the most remote on the planet, used by few ships and overflown by few aircraft.

Australian civilian radar extends only some 200 km (125 miles) from its coast, an Australian official said on condition of anonymity, although its air defense radar extends much further. Australia's military could not be reached for comment on Saturday and if it did detect a transponder-less aircraft heading south, there is no suggestion any alarm was raised.

U.S. military satellites monitor much of the globe, including some of the remotest oceans, looking primarily for early warning of any ballistic missile launch from a submarine or other vessel.

After the aircraft's initial disappearance a week ago, U.S. officials said their satellites had detected no signs of a mid-air explosion. It is unclear if such systems would have detected a crash landing in the southern Indian Ocean.

On India's Andaman Islands, a defense official told reporters he saw nothing unusual or out of place in the lack of permanent radar coverage. The threat in the area, he said, was much lower than on India's border with Pakistan where sophisticated radars are manned and online continuously.

At night in particular, he said, "nothing much happens".

"We have our radars, we use them, we train with them, but it's not a place where we have (much) to watch out for," he said. "My take is that this is a pretty peaceful place."
 
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

Just looking at the map of the latest potential southern Indian Ocean route, could any sensors at or out of Diego Garcia have detected the airplane or its demise?

Or is it too far away? The southern route is roughly midway between the western coast of Australia and Diego Garcia so whoever took the airplane in that direction clearly meant for it to be as far away from any civilization as possible.

Frankly I am assuming that US intelligence at a minimum knows where the plane is/went down even if not why or what exactly happened. Possibly also the Russians and/or whoever else has satellite coverage and/or naval/air assets in that part of the world at the time.
 
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