Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

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We need the wreckage before we can investigate the cause. Before we can talk Terrorism, Accident, Suicidal pilots, Aliens Whatever we need evidence.

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Certainly before we have any definitve answers, this is completely true...and the black boxes will be a very critical piece of that puzzle.

But we do have some evidence.

We have individuals (at least two), apparently purchasing one-way tickets to Beijing using stolen passports.

We have an aircraft that went completely dead, all of a sudden, at high altitude with no radio communications regarding its condition.

We have potential tranponder information indicating that the aircraft plunged several hundred feet very quickly while veering off course in the few seconds before all transponder and radar contact was lost.

We have a potential terrorist threat, made before the crash/loss against the Beijing airport.

Now...all of that may prove to be ancidotal...but there are some fairly siginficant things that begin to paint a picture.

In the end, the physcal evidence and the flight recorders will paint the full/real picture.

I pray, for the sake of all of the loved ones of the lost...that they get closure as soon as possible.

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bluewater2012 said:

Nope. Received news it was some form of life support from an boat.

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News from who?

Link?

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Jeff Head said:

News from who?

Link?

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Heard it early in the morning over the radio after Vietnamese side went to inspect it.

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Maybe I will venture a thought that some of you may be thinking.

It boils down to this deduction, drawn from the very best Sherlock Holmes reasoning, that the reason that the facts appear so baffling, is because a major contributor to the provision of information; ie a state level actor, is not telling the truth. Further they are not telling the truth because the truth is something they do not wish to disclose as it would be damaging to them.

I then pose the question: What sort of action from a state level actor could cause a plane to disappear electronically and physically, while over water and apparently losing its way, and be regarded as so damaging that the state level actor would choose not to disclose the truth it knows?

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Clearly the news in Asia likes to report rumor and speculation as fact. I've read about the life support object as well. I also read about a spool that was picked-up they don't think was a part of the plane. Same object? I don't know. I also read earlier about the identity of one of the users of the stolen passports was African. They covered all the Western scientific categories of races that exist on earth, Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Maybe it is aliens that have the power to morph reality.

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SampanViking said:

I then pose the question: What sort of action from a state level actor could cause a plane to disappear electronically and physically, while over water and apparently losing its way, ?

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The sort of state level action that would insert malware into the aircraft's fly-by-wire control system as well as communication management system either during manufacturing phase, or during inspection and overhaul. The malware would then enable the state level actor to take control of the aircraft, either in real time remotely, or in a pro-programmed fashion, stopping the transmission of any voice and telemetry, dive the aircraft to low altitude beneath normal surveillance coverage, fly it for a while to obscure it last know position, and then ditch it the sea so the plane remains largely intact while sinking into the sea, thus disappearing while shedding relatively little debris to be recovered at the surface.

You posed the question, that seem like a complete answer.

Most modern commerical passenger aircraft are purely fly by wire, without any direct action mechanical control for backup. So if the flight control computers are suitably programmed, the crew can be completely locked out of all aspects of aircraft management.

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Modern Airliners are like Modern fighter aircraft, Flown by computers with Pilots having a voting position.
a few years ago I heard about a security adviser in Germany I think who cooked up a computer App that could in theory override the flight controls. If that is possible, all that would theoretically be needed is a Hacker with knowledge of the flight operations Software used by Boeing 777's. That means One does not need to be a state entity to pull it off.

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CNN is claiming that according to Thai police, a Iranian purchased the tickets for the two passengers using stolen passports

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

Modern Airliners are like Modern fighter aircraft, Flown by computers with Pilots having a voting position.
a few years ago I heard about a security adviser in Germany I think who cooked up a computer App that could in theory override the flight controls. If that is possible, all that would theoretically be needed is a Hacker with knowledge of the flight operations Software used by Boeing 777's. That means One does not need to be a state entity to pull it off.

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There is movie like that. I don't remember the title of that movie but I think at least, up to now, it's possible in movies only.

Have you ever thought that the plane may actually didn't crash at all, and it may be hijacked to somewhere else?

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

Modern Airliners are like Modern fighter aircraft, Flown by computers with Pilots having a voting position.
a few years ago I heard about a security adviser in Germany I think who cooked up a computer App that could in theory override the flight controls. If that is possible, all that would theoretically be needed is a Hacker with knowledge of the flight operations Software used by Boeing 777's. That means One does not need to be a state entity to pull it off.

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That depends on the design philosophy of the manufacturer. Boeing gives pilot the ultimate power to veto and override. Airbus has multiple sets of flight laws. The pilot can override or veto normal flight laws. But once normal flight law is overruled by the pilot, a second, more relaxed set of laws come into force. This second set only reacts if it judges the pilot is endangering the plane. Once this set comes into force, it would override and veto any pilot input it deem necessary in order to restore flight safety.