London Summer Olympics 2012

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bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Well, my previous argument stills stand, as it did not depends on whether state sanctions is true or not.

FYI, here again is the view from the chinese doctors,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_China



There are two former Chinese doctors, but I can only find one but not the another from sydney morning herald, strange.......

Well you know what they say about wicki, Mines not much better I suppose. I have read some better literature on the issue , especially one by sa East german doctor who worked over in China as a consultant, but that was in a hard copy magazine.Actually the issues not particularly important now to did it all up. Its just that its too hard to believe that the govt did not know what was going on.
 

icbeodragon

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Havn't been following this thread much so this is pretty damn late :(

:edit: forget it, its been like a week so lets just let it rest... though Ill gladly respond if it comes up again.
 

escobar

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Gold #35, Men's team Table tennis, Wang Hao/Zhang Jike/Ma Long

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s002wjh

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China needs to learn to stand up for their athletes. They should have backed up the DQed badminton players instead of demanding them to apologize.

when they do something clearly wrong, there is nothing to back up. doing so will just make thing worst. there is no excuse for throwing the game, and the government know this is wrong set a example by asking them to apologize. this is different than the 16yrs old chinese swimmer, in which case china has the right to defend the swimmer, since its obivious an accusation.
 

solarz

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when they do something clearly wrong, there is nothing to back up. doing so will just make thing worst. there is no excuse for throwing the game, and the government know this is wrong set a example by asking them to apologize. this is different than the 16yrs old chinese swimmer, in which case china has the right to defend the swimmer, since its obivious an accusation.

That's just your opinion, and it's clearly not shared by the majority of people in China, nor, judging by reader comments on relevant news articles, by a large number of english-speaking readers.
 

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Injured Chinese hurdler Liu Xiang is to undergo surgery in London within the next two days, the Chinese athletics team leader said yesterday.

"Liu's surgery is scheduled in these two days in Britain. It is very hard for him. After 2008, he suffered such a setback but he insisted on going on," Feng Shuyong said.

Du Zhaocai, vice chairman of the Chinese Athletics Association, said yesterday that the surgeon would probably be the same man who had operated on many famous athletes, including David Beckham.

Liu, the Olympic champion in Athens in 2004, exited the London Games after crashing into the first hurdle in his 110m heat on Tuesday, four years after he was forced to withdraw due to a tendon injury from his heat at the 2008 Beijing Games.

Feng said that when Liu was injured, a preliminary examination at the London venue indicated he might have snapped his Achilles tendon. After Liu was taken to hospital, an MRI scan confirmed that it really was a fracture of the tendon.

Feng said Liu's journey over the past four years since the Beijing Olympics had been hard to bear for many of his fans.

"It was the result no one wanted to see. But this is the regular pattern in competitive sports. It is risky. We always try our best to minimize the risk but it cannot be totally avoidable in the competitions," Feng said.

"Liu fights against injuries nearly every day. It is not easy for him. It is unbearable for everyone. We admire him deep in our hearts," he added.

"Since 2002, Liu has reached the top level in the world. In the past decade, there are few athletes having done what he has achieved. It is very hard for him," said Feng.

Du also expressed his admiration for Liu.

"He has been in three Olympics so far. He is a 29-year-old veteran, also a big name," said Du. "But he has to bear the loneliness of a life on the training ground. I admire him a lot for always staying in a calm mood over so many years."

Du said Liu had always been under huge pressure.

"In the past four years, he received treatment, recovered and gradually improved his competitive results to a very high level. It was very hard," Du said. "He has done what he can do with all his heart. He has shown us the spiritual value."

After his injury on Tuesday morning, Liu, the former world record holder, earned a rousing ovation from the 80,000 crowd as he hopped down the track to symbolically cross the finish line, kissing the last hurdle as he did so. Many fans saw the performance as Liu's farewell to his Olympic career.

Chinese Olympic committee spokesman Zhang Haifeng said Liu had been resting in the Olympic athletes village since the injury, and was in good spirits when he visited him on Tuesday.

"He's in pain but he's very brave and optimistic," he said. "He's in bed in the athletes village. I visited him yesterday and talked a little bit and gave him some greetings.

"It's really a sad thing but his spirit inspires young people very much," Zhang said.
 

jackliu

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I'm afraid even after surgery he will be too old to compete for long. He had a good run for sure, hopefully he can help train other athletes for future games.
 

s002wjh

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That's just your opinion, and it's clearly not shared by the majority of people in China, nor, judging by reader comments on relevant news articles, by a large number of english-speaking readers.

dude, the case was clearly the athelete/coach fault. i read both chinese/english version, there is no excuse to defend it. if its wrong then its wrong, its not like the accusation about the chinese swimmer. are you that nationlist that even the government admit its the fault of coach/athelete, you still argue they are right? thats why i hate to discuss topic with ultra nationlist, they basically defend everything china does whether is wrong or not.
 

vesicles

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dude, the case was clearly the athelete/coach fault. i read both chinese/english version, there is no excuse to defend it. if its wrong then its wrong, its not like the accusation about the chinese swimmer. are you that nationlist that even the government admit its the fault of coach/athelete, you still argue they are right? thats why i hate to discuss topic with ultra nationlist, they basically defend everything china does whether is wrong or not.

I don't know what the big deal is. People do this all the time. People intentionally lose games all the time for many reasons. It could be for better opponents in the next round. It could be for better position in the lottery in the off season. It could also be that one team wants to send the game back home so that they can win at home. It could be for having one more game so that more money can be made (admission tickets, TV ads, etc). NFL does it. NBA does it. MLB does it. NHL does it. People know about it. Nobody hides it. It's part of the strategy. This is COMPLETELY different from fixing games, where both sides agree to an outcome of the game before the game begins.
 
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