London Summer Olympics 2012

s002wjh said:

so your saying, throwing the game is ok in olympic, and the chinese government should backup the player. even after the refree indicate its not acceptable, the chinese athlete is right to throw the game dispite olympic committe judegement,

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This is a . The issue is that the players broke no rules, so they are not in the wrong, pure and simple. If the refree and the olympic committee thought it was wrong, then they are at fault for making up rules on the field.

s002wjh said:

if this is not nationlist i don't know what is.

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It is covert racism against the Chinese. Arguments along the line of "the Chinese are wrong just because" with no valid premise pretty much indicate it as such.

s002wjh said:

now if the athlete play for the win after the refree warn them, then that would be fine we won't have this discussion now. but it was a loophole that was expolit by the player/coach, and its wrong, pure and simple. so when referee pull out a card, the athelete should just ignore him. so why not throw the rocket intentional to other player and call it accident, its not breaking the rule. basically for you turn the olympic game into a unethnical, unmoral, use any tactic to win the game is fine. serisoully. well i'm glad the chinese government least doesn't think like you, and make this incident even worse.

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Nope. For you to make such preposterous suggestion that playing by the rules is wrong shows you are desperate at trying to put the Chinese team into a bad light. We can only speculate as to the reason why.

The players broke no rules, thus not in the wrong, plain and simple.

s002wjh said:

lol seriouslly the player throwing the game meant the IOC is not interest in the olympic spirit. the fact is they do it because olympic spirit, the game should be play for the win, not throwing it for an easy match. you keep justify throwing the game is ok, no big deal. its unethical, its wrong, pure and simple

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Further issues arise where a round-robin is used as a qualifying round within a larger tournament. A competitor already qualified for the next stage before its last game may either not try hard (in order to conserve resources for the next phase) or even deliberately lose (if the scheduled next-phase opponent for a lower-placed qualifier is perceived to be easier than for a higher-placed one

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. The issue is that the players broke no rules, so they are not in the wrong, pure and simple. If the refree and the olympic committee thought it was wrong, then they are at fault for making up rules on the field.


It is covert racism against the Chinese. Arguments along the line of "the Chinese are wrong just because" with no valid premise pretty much indicate it as such.


Nope. For you to make such preposterous suggestion that playing by the rules is wrong shows you are desperate at trying to put the Chinese team into a bad light. We can only speculate as to the reason why.

The players broke no rules, thus not in the wrong, plain and simple.

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clearly all the media/committee/including the chinese government belief is wrong. only some nationlist belief its ok to throw the game. its part of ethnical issues, loophole was expolit. and any moral person think the player done nothing wrong need to re-examine themself on some the moral/ethnical issues.

so unless you find some commitee/news says its OK to throw game in olympic i stand my opinion.

and what heck are you talking about i cheer chinese diving team during the olympic, i myself grow up in china. and its not just china been warn, south korean, indonesia too. this was clearly wrong, nothing can justify that. is it any different opinions about the event that doesn't align with some chinese nationlistic is consider bashing china. i thought people here were more natural/mature about these thing.

so let me ask you this and others. during olympic game after referee give warning, the player still throwing the game, is it wrong or not? and should that nation defend the player/coach or should that nation recognize its not ethical/morally wrong.

s002wjh said:

so throwing game on purpose when clearly the olympic game was meant to play for the win is ok. is all chinese think like this?? so if the guy throw the rocket intentional to other player call it accident its ok, since there is no rule for that either.

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How is doing the right thing wrong? Using strategies is the norm in sport.

s002wjh said:

you guys need to take some ethical class. use any tactic, any way to win thats the motto now huh. its the olympic not some underground boxing match

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We are giving you an ethical class right now, since you have so much trouble telling what is right and what is wrong.

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and clearly any government/commitee disagree with you guys on this issue.

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Clearly, the committee was at fault for being incompetent and is now penalizing the players for no right reason.

NBA does it

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LOL so true....

NBA does it

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LOL so true.... Its gotten to the point where people who really follow the league are questioning if the finals are determined in advance...

Engineer said:

How is doing the right thing wrong? Using strategies is the norm in sport.


We are giving you an ethical class right now, since you have so much trouble telling what is right and what is wrong.



Clearly, the committee was at fault for being incompetent and is now penalizing the players for no right reason.

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right the committee and the rest of world, and the chinese government is wrong. throwing game is ok, expolit any loophole in the olympic is ok. i rest my case. maybe you should goto other forum and put the same argument there.

yes throwing the game intentionaly was right, seriouslly listen to yourself. clearly you need take some moral/ethical class.

s002wjh said:

clearly all the media/committee/including the chinese government belief is wrong. only some nationlist belief its ok to throw the game. its part of ethnical issues, loophole was expolit. and any moral person think the player done nothing wrong need to re-examine themself on some the moral/ethnical issues.

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Clearly, the players broke no rule, so they are not in the wrong. There is nothing immoral or unethical about it. Only for reasons of covert racism that it's okay to claim otherwise, just because that particular strategy was started by Chinese.

s002wjh said:

so unless you find some commitee/news says its OK to throw game in olympic i stand my opinion.

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Well, that opinion is trash anyway, and it doesn't worth the keyboard it's being typed on. Unless a specific rule is cited showing that the players were in the wrong, the players are still in the right despite they are currently being shafted. Innocent until proven guilty.

s002wjh said:

so let me ask you this and others. during olympic game after referee give warning, the player still throwing the game, is it wrong or not? and should that nation defend the player/coach or should that nation recognize its not ethical/morally wrong.

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The reason we have rules is because ethics are open to interpretation or outright being ignored for convenience.

Was it wrong for the British cyclist to crash on purpose? Why does the British government defend him then?

Is it ethically right for the cycling officials to refuse to review the video evidence regarding the loss of the Chinese cyclists' gold?

Canada lost the semi-finals in a soccer match against the US because the referee made some highly dubious calls. Who is right, who is wrong?

If we are going to be penalizing athletes on moral grounds, who should be the moral authority?

Should it be you, s002wjh?

s002wjh said:

so let me ask you this and others. during olympic game after referee give warning, the player still throwing the game, is it wrong or not? and should that nation defend the player/coach or should that nation recognize its not ethical/morally wrong.

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The referee gave warnings after the crowd booed. Is it wrong for the referee to make decision like that? Once again, if it did not break any rules within the game there no wrong. To win a game esp with medals to grab you need to exploit every opportunities the game allow. If you think the olympics is only about playing/judging games fairly, then i'm sorry, maybe you'd get better sports ethis from watching world champion competitions instead of the olympics mixing with politics nowadays and the bragging rights with gold medals.