solarz
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You know what's far more morally wrong than losing a game intentionally? Breaking an agreement. In some scenarios, that act is called "betrayal".
London Summer Olympics 2012
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You know what's far more morally wrong than losing a game intentionally? Breaking an agreement. In some scenarios, that act is called "betrayal".
Engineer
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Of course it is right, because the rules permit it. Strategy is the norm in sports. Case closed unless you have valid arguments showing how the Chinese team is in the wrong.
The organizers have only themselves to blame when they didn't heed the warnings that such tactics would be employed. Playing by the rules is not wrong, pure and simple. Of course, to those with covert racism, it is wrong because it gives the Chinese advantages.
clearly thats ethical question. which all the committee doesn't matter IOC, china or other agree its morally wrong, and many others agree clearly not on this forum though. olympic game should be play fair, play to the best of ability, paly to win. not exploiting the loopholes. there are countries do that not just china, it does not mean its right. and pretty much all the sport committee agree upon this. and if you guys put this argument in any other forum, i doubt any those forum members agree throwing the game is ok.
i consider its wrong but hey if all of you consider its ok. there is nothing much to say.
if the IOC think someone will expolit the loophole in the rule beforehand, the rule will be fix before the game start. in fact they are already change the rules now. if cheating on test was not against school policy would that consider ok too or wrong. you guys are growing man, i presume, can distinguish moral wrong issue or not. the rule are there so athlete won't cheat, but just like laws exist in society, it doesn't cover all the loopholes, and it depend on the individual/coach to know its morally wrong or not. and if they did it and later admit its wrong then its fine, but if they insist its right despite IOC, and many other committees ruling, especially in olympic, then they are not only embrass themself but also their country. so yes they didnt break any rules, but is it right, no. and they apologize and recognize its wrong.
so again if you guys think throwing game in the olympic is ok, IOC is wrong and making china a laugh stick in others eyes, there is nothing much to talk about it if you can't even recongize its morally wrong to do this. the athlete is not there for themself but also represent their country.
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bluewater2012
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I couldn't edit my post in time. Anyway, I want to add this article:
Li Xuerui wins Olympic women's badminton singles, Wang Xin withdraws over injury
Xin had asked Danish referee Torsten Berg several times to have the sweat wiped, but the latter refused.
Is that ethic moral of the coach against this badminton player request? Should the IOC return her bronze medal which this neglected referee ignored her plea and caused her her injury and the loss of the bronze medal?
like i said you need take some ethical class, and tone down your ultra nationlism. its not just chinese athlete did this.
i read it after i get home, since can't do here at work.
solarz
Brigadier
Clearly, it's pointless arguing with you since you simply ignore anything you can't refute.
Engineer
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This has nothing to do with nationalism, but with right and wrong. Typically, people who hide behind the word "nationalism" have covert racism, for they couldn't accept the fact of losing to superior opponents who have independent thinking.
Also, I don't see why I need to take ethic classes when my ethic is vastly superior to yours. After all, I am not the one who suggested that following rules is wrong.
The fact that this happens means it is the fault of the rule-makers, not the players.
bluewater2012
Junior Member
Take a look at the wiki link i gave you ealier regarding the round robin tournament, it it states "[5] The round robin stage at the Olympics were a new introduction and potential problems were readily known prior to the tournament." and going by your logic when they know there a problem they should fix it right away, which they did not but instead penalized the athletes for their slacking efforts. How is that fair? Yes the rules are changed now after you ousted 8 members from the game, bravo! And how should you expect china to respond to the DQ knowingly china are a complete unlike the americans who supports their athletes all the way. Should china say otherwise dont be surprised the media ganging up on china which already did with ye shiwen gold medal. Talk about bad timeing DQ right after that and here china like to save face so they prob suck it up and keep quiet like what they would usually do that what irks me so much. As for your logic of cheating not against school policy, that is like saying taking an exam with an open book. There is no problem with that when it clearly states you can look at the answer. Its clearly within the rules going by that logic.
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