That's the spirit my young padawan!
Lessons for China to learn from Ukraine conflict for Taiwan scenario
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That's the spirit my young padawan!
There's also the fact those hover drones has inefficient mode of flight if you're aiming for range. Military loitering drones usually go for conventional plane setup with high L/D form, so they can't hover but is very efficient at cruising/loitering
I was thinking more of urban warfare drone swarms. You would need hover drones there
China should be cautious about assuming Taiwanese would automatically defect, give up, or lose willpower to resist. Just assume they are diehard nationalists that will fight to bitter end, and plan accordingly. Go big or don't fight at all, all options need to be on the table.
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500 hundred Javelins and Stingers per day? Doesn't that say how much they're not working?
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Possibly but more likely it's the Military-Industrial Complex grifting US taxpayers for their arms. They're still probably pissed off about losing their cash cow in Afghanistan from the US pullout and are now using Ukraine instead to funnel money.
How powerful is a hand held directional jammer? Wouldn't that be limited to like really short ranges and single targets?! Like just say they take one of those out, they would give out their positions and the other dozen or so drones in the swarm could locate and track and take them out right?
Like program a few drones in every swarm just to do counter jammer role. Like how they have anti radiation missiles and jets etc. Is that possible? I'm guessing it is since if they can target drones like that, it should be sending out a strong signal that can also be spotted, tracked and ultimate targeted.
I don't remember hearing about any military who has commissioned these and are using them yet, so doesn't sound like it's even useful in a real sense. Again sounds like possibly useful for civilian police use for single drones, but not for military against rich advanced power like china where the drones will be in great numbers and also protected with other equipment and heavy firepower.
I don't really see them being used successfully in like squad based infantry guerilla war like manpads are. They'd need to charge them regularly and carry them everywhere, and lots of other issues preventing them from being feasible and used in such a way vs chinese attack.
Do you have any good links to articles about drone warfare in general(especially about the smaller infantry level loitering drone stuff, not the HALE reaper drones that just drop bombs from so high vs ground targets who can't even see them before they die), those handheld directional jammers and that kinda stuff in general? If anyone has it please link and share, I'd be interested in reading about it.
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I can't answer any of those questions with facts, I've only seen a couple of instances where those drones gun are deployed in security details for important events like Olympics or VIP meetings, and I remember a report of some Russian special forces using them from RT I think... but that's about it. I assume they are pretty effective against civilian drones maybe out to 100m.
When I say larger jammers I mean EW systems in used today, I think they'll be highly effective against current non-autonomous drones, military or civilian.
if you're talking about anti-radiation drones then you may as well talk about autonomous drones, which means game over for human armies.... but yeah anti-radiation drones can definitely works by itself.
And when you say they can't be jammed, you mean just the connection between drone and remote controller or comm center right? So all the controlling stuff and guidance and target recognition will be local and on the drone itself? That seems kind of risky and could probably be gamed/hacked too. That would only work if you don't care about civilian casualties and just are targeting everything that moves, right?
Don't they have systems like protecting against jammers, and also higher out of reach and more expensive drones that can act as relays or comms centers which then relay to even higher manned jets or satellites etc?
Just need to put enough relays. Thats kind of like the loyal wingman drone stuff isnt it?
If china can land drones on mars autonomously and sink moving ships from 1500km away, I'm sure they could make this work from just 100km away max, or most likely, from PLAN ships that have surrounded the island and are sitting like 20-30km away out of like artillery or manpad range.
Yeah, 100 meters seems pretty useless in actual war and only for vs surveillance drones with bad civilians level cameras. Vs Military like china, they might as well just use normal machine gun or something and just shoot them out of the sky up to like 500 meters. Or better yet just stay hidden and hide under the ground like a rat heh. Better to not give away your position in that position.
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