Lessons for China to learn from Ukraine conflict for Taiwan scenario

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Ex0

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Right? I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices @gadgetcool5 schizophrenic flip-flops, a few low-hanging anti-US comments here and there, and suddenly Jai-Hind style defeatism and worship of West and Chinese surrender.

How much do you want to bet he is an Indian pretending to be 'Chinese nationalist' then inserting opposing opinions that are so obviously retarded (i.e., recognize Taiwan independence to avoid nuclear WW3). Fuck off Jai-Hind.
Yeah. Ive only seen his last two/three posts sync it doesn't sound like something any Chinese would say, let alone some Taiwan nationalist. It sounds like something someone who has swallowed every anti china western talking point would say, but they know they are on pro china sino defense forum so they have to try and blend in and throw a bone here and there. It's quite obvious he's either pretending to be Chinese and pro china when he's not, or he's Taiwanese/HK and supports independence and liberal democracy and "rules based order" and he sees china as a bad guy undermining that "rules based order" which is sooooo good for the world(see usa and wests democracy world tour poster and the countries it's helped b by and if china only capitulated to all it's adversaries on every contentious issue, we would all have world peace and everyone would love china.

They would love china just like they have been "loving" china and Chinese people for the last 300 years right? Even when china was weaker and poorer than Rwanda, they loved us so much they even sold us their opium for cheap discount prices, they loved us so much that they even fought a war so they can continue selling us that cheap lovely opium right. They loved us so much they did Chinese exclusion acts and white Australia policies because they only thinking about china and not wanting Chinese to leave china. They loved Chinese so much and thought so highly of our skills they have us the most difficult and deadly jobs building usas transcontinental railroads, they respected us so much they knew we could budget properly because we are so smart so they also paid us less than everyone else for doing even harder and more dangerous work, right? Am I right or am I right? I think I'm right.

Lol that's what his posts basically sound like. Trying to make white as black and black as white. Trying to victim blame and sympathizing with the evil aggressor and oppressor.
 

Ex0

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Moving vehicles in and out of an AO is only a small portion of logistics. Russia had no problem moving units in and out of their staging areas, and yet they're bogged down in the north and struggling to advance 100 km across the flat Eurasian steppe because they didn't do basic maintenance work on their supply trucks.

Bogged down in the north? What's this? Don't they have Kiev completely surrounded already? Doesn't seem bogged or broken down due to no maintenance to me.

It's only been barely a week and they have already surrounded the capital and most of the major cities already. Seems like everything is going fine.

The only real question I have is why Russia isn't dominating the skies. Maybe they think it's a risk they don't have to take, and want to save their jets and air to ground PGM for something else, since they can just surround, siege and starve Kiev and other major cities, along with just flattening them with artillery which is much cheaper and more effective to flatten the whole city with zero risk.

If you don't agree with my assessment, then what do you think Russias goal or strategy was that they got "bogged down and broken down supply trucks due to lack of maintenance"?

Imo it was clear Russia was trying to limit casualties and didn't even half commit, let alone fully commit. They wanted to keep adding more and more pressure while testing Ukraine and it's leadership's resolve. If Ukraine surrendered fast then good. But if they don't then Moscow continues with their plan tk surround kiev and major cities. It's only a matter of time before they fall. I doubt Ukraine can defend and repel Russian siege and future attacks (artillery)
 

FriedButter

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Yeah. Ive only seen his last two/three posts sync it doesn't sound like something any Chinese would say, let alone some Taiwan nationalist. It sounds like something someone who has swallowed every anti china western talking point would say, but they know they are on pro china sino defense forum so they have to try and blend in and throw a bone here and there. It's quite obvious he's either pretending to be Chinese and pro china when he's not, or he's Taiwanese/HK and supports independence and liberal democracy and "rules based order" and he sees china as a bad guy undermining that "rules based order" which is sooooo good for the world(see usa and wests democracy world tour poster and the countries it's helped b by and if china only capitulated to all it's adversaries on every contentious issue, we would all have world peace and everyone would love china.

They would love china just like they have been "loving" china and Chinese people for the last 300 years right? Even when china was weaker and poorer than Rwanda, they loved us so much they even sold us their opium for cheap discount prices, they loved us so much that they even fought a war so they can continue selling us that cheap lovely opium right. They loved us so much they did Chinese exclusion acts and white Australia policies because they only thinking about china and not wanting Chinese to leave china. They loved Chinese so much and thought so highly of our skills they have us the most difficult and deadly jobs building usas transcontinental railroads, they respected us so much they knew we could budget properly because we are so smart so they also paid us less than everyone else for doing even harder and more dangerous work, right? Am I right or am I right? I think I'm right.

Lol that's what his posts basically sound like. Trying to make white as black and black as white. Trying to victim blame and sympathizing with the evil aggressor and oppressor.

Gotta disagree. Doesn’t sound like someone who shallowed a bunch of anti-china shit but someone who desperate for an injection of 500cc of pure copium.

Here are basically his claims so far…
1) PLA Logistics are trash. Source: Trust me bro

2) PLAAF operates mostly obsolete fighter jets. Source: Trust me bro.

3) China doesn’t have that many DF-41s. Source: Trust me bro.

His mad because NATO isn’t starting a war with Russia and the Western Bubble of superiority has popped.

But he got banned. So let’s not go off topic any further by shitting on him.
 

B.I.B.

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Bogged down in the north? What's this? Don't they have Kiev completely surrounded already? Doesn't seem bogged or broken down due to no maintenance to me.

It's only been barely a week and they have already surrounded the capital and most of the major cities already. Seems like everything is going fine.

The only real question I have is why Russia isn't dominating the skies. Maybe they think it's a risk they don't have to take, and want to save their jets and air to ground PGM for something else, since they can just surround, siege and starve Kiev and other major cities, along with just flattening them with artillery which is much cheaper and more effective to flatten the whole city with zero risk.

If you don't agree with my assessment, then what do you think Russias goal or strategy was that they got "bogged down and broken down supply trucks due to lack of maintenance"?

Imo it was clear Russia was trying to limit casualties and didn't even half commit, let alone fully commit. They wanted to keep adding more and more pressure while testing Ukraine and it's leadership's resolve. If Ukraine surrendered fast then good. But if they don't then Moscow continues with their plan tk surround kiev and major cities. It's only a matter of time before they fall. I doubt Ukraine can defend and repel Russian siege and future attacks (artillery)
The West are gambling on Putin being removed to be replaced by a West leaning Govt.
 

hkbc

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Don't get ahead of yourself here and aimlessly insult him. You don't even know if he's actually from the ROC or even if he is actually Chinese. ;)
hmm... not sure how I am 'aimlessly insulting' the person in question in fact IIRC I said he might have a point then went on to suggest if so its best not to waste money on something unnecessary, when there's plenty of other uses for the cash instead of commission for LockMart sales people, but may be I am getting ahead of myself again......
 
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