Ladakh Flash Point

lgnxz said:

Seethe and cope harder, now I'm just waiting for your reply admitting your mistake and stop spamming this thread with your gish gallop, right?

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You know that is not gonna happen, right?

They will just dismiss what is presented, ignore and continue spamming this forum. It is no longer about facts and evidences.. by now surely all of u shld already know that the Indians are just here to spam, troll and laugh at u hardworking folks.

Hilarious how the same people accusing me of using outdated satellite imagery are responding by posting even more outdated imagery lol.

Yes, China captured pp14... by retreating over a km from the site. Meanwhile, India immediately resumed patrols after disengagement was complete.

BTW, it is impossible to capture something if you do not physically occupy it. That is simple English.

This is how it looked after disengagement.




And PP stands for PATROLLING POINT, which marks the end of Indian patrols. The only reason India built camps near the area was in response to China's new buildup next to pp14. The only reason why China suddenly moved in hundreds of troops, camps, roadbuilding vehicles, and even went as far as to alter the river was to move the lac from behind pp14 to the Galwan mouth(their new claim line)
And even their rear positions retreated.


And the fact that AFTER disengagement occured India still had a camp less than 500 meters from pp14 shows that at least untill winter, India resumed normal patrolling operations.

Great to see that members here are still coping with China's retreat.

Fortunately, they have a pretty big keyboard army to do that.

Some more good images of newly constructed Chinese camps in Hot Springs and kongka, respectively. Both of these are well behind India's claim line But I thought China was still occupying Indian claimed territory there, according to some members?

Ignoring random alleged "geolocated" camp sites that don't prove PLA being behind or in front of said point, it appears that Indian opposition is going to push Modi for some accountability.



Modi is working for China with respect to observing agreements for disengagements and backing out of the positions they used to patrol, much to the annoyance of China. If Modi can keep his troll army shifting the narrative for China within India, then it's "win" win... as in PR win and actual win.

Well duh. The opposition's job is literally to oppose the government.

And if retreating from more than 60 km of territory PLA used to patrol and dismantling strategic infrastructure is a win for China, than congratulations

What non- Indian media is saying

twineedle said:

What non- Indian media is saying

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But what this stuff is representing is just China's side of the disengagement. The flip side of this is India has to also go back. Both sides vacating disputed region so that a buffer is created. Whether you believe this serves China's interest or India's is rather inconsequential and you've made yourself clear what you believe.

For every select article that mentions India "winning" because BOTH disengaged and moved back, there are 10 articles that raise the concern that China has truly won by forcing India to observe a variation of China's offer from 1959.

It's funny how Modi and his government has not responded or addressed opposition attacks. If the accusations are totally and easily proven false, why doesn't Modi government do that? Instead why do they mobilise the only useful crap they have - Hindutva fake news brigade and IT cell?

Why doesn't Modi officially come out and say that after agreements, PLA is not in a single cm^2 of Indian claimed lands anywhere along Ladakh and that India will be able to patrol the disputed zone again?



"Referring to a report suggesting the build-up of Chinese soldiers across the Line of Actual Control (LAC), Rahul tweeted, “China mobilized its conventional & cyber forces to threaten India. The Government of India buckled. Mark my words, our land in Depsang is gone and DBO (Daulat Beg Oldie) is vulnerable. The Government of India’s cowardice will lead to tragic consequences in the future.”"

ougoah said:

But what this stuff is representing is just China's side of the disengagement. The flip side of this is India has to also go back. Both sides vacating disputed region so that a buffer is created. Whether you believe this serves China's interest or India's is rather inconsequential and you've made yourself clear what you believe.

For every select article that mentions India "winning" because BOTH disengaged and moved back, there are 10 articles that raise the concern that China has truly won by forcing India to observe a variation of China's offer from 1959.

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There are far more Indian media articles saying India won than China. But I have avoided posting them, since any Indian media favorable to India is discredited here.

Modi busy distracting himself and not bothering to participate in the highly acclaimed democratic process by burying his head in the sand and ignoring all calls for accountability and statements to address all concerns. That includes the concerns of Indians who are not within the set Jai Hinds, for example... Rahul Gandhi.