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Mt1701d

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But how exactly does GoC expect us to believe there were more killed than injured in a melee? Particularly in a big one as this.
The reported casualties was only the major injuries and deaths... it could very well be that many others were injured but with light injuries like cuts and bruises which are to be expected being in the military never mind a melee, as such might not be worth reporting, the soldiers did their duty and honouring those that made the ultimate sacrifice preforming that duty is whats important...
 

siegecrossbow

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Yes. Stating that is important considering that there exists a chance where Jai Hinds could try to derail it by raising how only one injury is suspicious.

Many were injured, Commander Qi sustained critical injuries, Four soldier died.

Clear. Consistent. Single digit casualty.
No maybe 40, 60,100, 2*x+n.

The video already proved the claim that China instigated Galwan incident complete BS. If the Indians can lie about the origin of conflict, one wonders what else they can lie about.

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Even the Indian army is keeping their traps shut. They know they don’t have any concrete counters and that China has more videos that could potentially embarrass them.
 

twineedle

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Ahh yes, testimony of the Indian soldier - the paradigm of unbiasedness and truthfulness. Always reliable, not prone to nationalism and partiality.

Might as well apply Indian soldiers as journalists to UN.
Well do you have any better sources? I would be more than happy to see any to see them.
 

twineedle

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Would be your first if it makes sense. Let's see:

That's exactly what the PLA did. It's a new strategy of constant pressure with superior power but with opportunities for face-saving de-escalation for India. There's nothing to complain about here.

Seems pretty good to me. From salami slicing to routing the Americans in Korea, China never loses territory; it only gains. You're just not good at analysis.

Then India flares up and they suffer casualties and get beaten back. Only failure there is is for India.
Lol in this standoff China literally restored status quo ante by withdrawing 60km. Now members here are accusing India of salami slicing. Meanwhile India enforced its claim in Galwan and Pangong.
 

getready

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All these hidden info and lack of information-release on China's part has made China look like the bad guy in the International Media, on top of all the negativity being piled on China ( justified or not) since the Covid Pandemic.
Unless the PLA and China learn to overcome this mental block, or fear of information, no matter how advanced the Chinese society may become, or how benevolent the Chinese people maybe towards their neighbours, the 'evil' and ' cunning' and 'duplicitous' perception of China in the eyes of the world will never change.
Not to mention, it makes China look bad that they are only now publicly honouring their fallen soldiers, after so many months, which does not help the already 'communist fodder' image of Chinese soldiers (which is not correct, but the image persists in the minds of many).
You missed the point of China delaying the release of information to the Chinese public. If they released the details and number of dead at that time when situation is so hot and volatile, it could lead to further escalation when public demands blood or revenge. It could become untenable. We have seen before nationalistic hot heads trying to Incite violent reprisals and spilling out from internet to the streets.

At that time if china dun give in to them it might look weak and useless. In reality a hot war between two nuclear armed nations with biggest population in the world isn't in the best interest of everyone. That's why china wanted conditions to deescalate and return to as normal as possible before disclosing these. China isn't hot headed and useless gov like India. Give them some credit
 
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Sardaukar20

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The Chinese were late to announce their fallen. But still, its better late than never. Look at how much damage a Chinese 9-minute video did to 8-months of Indian BS narrative since Galwan. Its a hot topic in China, and its getting some serious attention around the world. There will be haters for sure. But its also good to see how well it has been received. The Indian media is in meltdown. The Jai Hinds and Bahkts are going nuts.

The Indian media is in so much distress. I have not seen this much damage control in quite awhile. Reminds me of the panic they were in when Galwan just happened. Predictably, they have to go around reminding viewers that China is lying again. The horrified journalists, hosts, commentators, and ex-army men are doing even more of their group delusion sessions. Their heroin-highs had nearly worn-off, so these sessions were important to give them another shot.

The Jai Hinds and Bhakts are raging in the IDF. Unspeakable things are being written there. More trolls from the great Indian troll army are on a pilgrimage to come to check out our nice little forum here.

Thinking about how India got here. I was reminded of the monologue by Valery Legasov in the Chernobyl TV show about lies. There has to be a price for lies. India can lie and lie. But the truth is always there. Every time India lies, it incurs a debt to the truth. And someday, that debt of truth has to be paid. That is how a 9-minute video by China derailed 8-months of Indian narrative-building. Lies!
 
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TheFoozyOne

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Lol in this standoff China literally restored status quo ante by withdrawing 60km. Now members here are accusing India of salami slicing. Meanwhile India enforced its claim in Galwan and Pangong.
Another day, another victory for India on the internet. Too bad it’s different in reality.

India used to patrol up to finger 8, now not only it can’t go past finger 4, it is restricted to finger 2/3, a non disputed territory that isn’t apparently even part of Chinese claim line.

India tried to demolish Chinese tents at Galwan and got routed instead, many running and freezing to death. I fail to see how that enforced Indian claim when the attack failed to dislodge the Chinese position over there.

The withdrawal agreement is only restricted to Pagong Tso right now. The rest remains to be seen.
 

siegecrossbow

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The Chinese were late to announce their fallen. But still, its better late than never. Look at how much damage a Chinese 9-minute video did to 8-months of Indian BS narrative since Galwan. Its a hot topic in China, and its getting some serious attention around the world. There will be haters for sure. But its also good to see how well it has been received. The Indian media is in meltdown. The Jai Hinds and Bahkts are going nuts.

The Indian media is in so much distress. I have not seen this much damage control in quite awhile. Reminds me of the panic they were in when Galwan just happened. Predictably, they have to go around reminding viewers that China is lying again. The horrified journalists, hosts, commentators, and ex-army men are doing even more of their group delusion sessions. Their heroin-highs had nearly worn-off, so these sessions were important to give them another shot.

The Jai Hinds and Bhakts are raging in the IDF. Unspeakable things are being written there. More trolls from the great Indian troll army are on a pilgrimage to come to check out our nice little forum here.

Thinking about how India got here. I was reminded of the monologue by Valery Legasov in the Chernobyl TV show about lies. There has to be a price for lies. India can lie and lie. But the truth is always there. Every time India lies, it incurs a debt to the truth. And someday, that debt of truth has to be paid. That is how a 9-minute video by China derailed 8-months of Indian narrative-building.

This.

Even though I wished that China had honored the martyrs back in June, the silver lining to the video release is that it occurred 8 months after Col Babu and friends were honored as heroes and placed on pedestals by both the Indian press and media. The video shown by China, coupled with the muted response from the Indian Army, will sow doubt within the hearts of even the most dedicated Bahkts.

A comparable situation would be that of Austin Cyclist Lance Armstrong. Wouldn't it have been better if he was busted for steroid use early in his career? Probably. But the fact that he was busted after winning so many Tour De Frances was devastating for both him and his fanbase.

That said, I do think that the focus of most Indians will shift from Galwan to some other "victories" in the near future. It will be like the Balakot Strike saga all over again.
 

manqiangrexue

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Lol in this standoff China literally restored status quo ante by withdrawing 60km. Now members here are accusing India of salami slicing. Meanwhile India enforced its claim in Galwan and Pangong.
LOL India lost over 1,000 km^2 with some sources saying 600 mi^2. "India" and "enforce" don't go together unless someone enforced India because Indian force is only deadly to other Indians... well, unless you count one-time cowardly ambushes on unarmed negotiators...
 
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Xizor

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Well do you have any better sources? I would be more than happy to see any to see them.
For the level of sources that you prop up for your claims and allegations, the sources that I post is more than enough. I make sure I have equally credible sources if not more. Not disposed to entertain you with better.
 
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