Ladakh Flash Point

twineedle said:

And you still have not provided evidence of Indian troops regularly patrolling up to finger 4, while I have provided testimony from an Army officer who actually served on the lake.

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sukhoi_30MKI said:

How many points cpc gives to ugyer people for keeping calm and obey even though their rights are taken away?

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twineedle said:

while I have provided testimony from an Army officer who actually served on the lake.

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longmarch said:

One more point to make: throughout Chinese history, they don't do salami slicing. It's either frontal attack with superior power, like Huo Qubing or Li Jing did; or show initial constraint, entice enemy with weakness, then counter attack like Peng Dehuai did in Korean War. Even for south china sea, you can see this pattern.

However, for border issue with India, If PLA objective is to maintain conflict at low level to resist salami slicing, neither of these would work. You have to change your doctrine. Raw power would never ever get the best result you want. you need much finer calculation and control.

And China is just not good at this. For decades India has been able to push the envelope again and again. Then something flares up, and your objective fails.

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longmarch said:

One more point to make:

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longmarch said:

throughout Chinese history, they don't do salami slicing. It's either frontal attack with superior power, like Huo Qubing or Li Jing did; or show initial constraint, entice enemy with weakness, then counter attack like Peng Dehuai did in Korean War. Even for south china sea, you can see this pattern.

However, for border issue with India, If PLA objective is to maintain conflict at low level to resist salami slicing, neither of these would work. You have to change your doctrine. Raw power would never ever get the best result you want. you need much finer calculation and control.

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longmarch said:

And China is just not good at this. For decades India has been able to push the envelope again and again.

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longmarch said:

Then something flares up, and your objective fails.

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manqiangrexue said:

Indians are the last people to tell others to be honest. Hu initially reported that there were ~11 injured but injuries that were light are pointless to count afterwards. One person died drowning trying to help others. Nothing sounds off. As a matter of fact, at the beginning, it seems that Hu was not authorized to release such information and did so without getting the full story, which is why it was taken down shortly after. If you wanna see indefensible narratives, go look at Indian media. They sound like a bunch of drunks arguing with each other LOL You could hardly even tell they were referring to the same event!

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N00B said:

True. At the end of the day Hu isn't part of the Chinese government. A senior reporter - presumably with connections - sure. But still, a private individual. Nothing to add on what your wrote about Indian media either.

But how exactly does GoC expect us to believe there were more killed than injured in a melee? Particularly in a big one as this.

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N00B said:

True. At the end of the day Hu isn't part of the Chinese government. A senior reporter - presumably with connections - sure. But still, a private individual. Nothing to add on what your wrote about Indian media either.

But how exactly does GoC expect us to believe there were more killed than injured in a melee? Particularly in a big one as this.

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siegecrossbow said:

They didn’t state that only one was injured. Commander Qi sustained heavy injuries and was hospitalized for several months afterward. There are way more PLA soldiers who were injured.

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