There are also plenty of western and Indian sources that say India did not lose any territory, as you previously asserted. Are you going to take them seriously?
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So what sources do you think are reliable? Genuinely curious. I myself like to read sources from as many different countries as possible as I make my decisions, including Global Times. And ironically, the Global Times is going against many of the narratives propagated on this forum by confirming the restoration of status quo ante, which many are denying.Not "any source" but "any certain source". These certain sources (FT, Bloomberg and BBC, CNN etc.) are known to be biased at the least, and fake news at the worst regarding China. The articles from these sources are often written by Indians, essentially they are "indian" sources, so not being neutral.
If we change these "any sources" to Global Time, or Russian, Pakistani sources with articles by Chinese or Pakistani authors, would you give them the same treatment as you give to FT, Bloomberg etc.? We can ask you the same question.
I think that you have a default position that these "any source" are trustworthy to begin with. While many of us take the default position that these "any source" are liar until proven otherwise.
I do agree with you that we have to agree to disagree.
This is what Dr. Taylor Fravel, an MIT Political Scientist and China scholar, said. Most people here will probably disagree, but it is an interesting perspective.
Thank you for seriously asking the question. I feel honored. However, there is no easy way to answer your question. The most important thing that I always try to adhere is NOT about trusting one source, and NOT always.
- Treat every article by examine their claim against fact that I can gather and logic.
- Use other source to cross check, especially opposing side. Like in a court of law, there must be opposing voice.
- Use basic logic. Put myself into the picture to see what I am going to do, does that make sense to me.
- Have a strong memory, save the paper, screen dump, keep a history record of the source. If they break my judgement (above) for 3 times and more, I stamp them as habitual lair with a predetermined agenda. Anything they say later will be by default treated as lie before proven otherwise. This 3 times is not just about China, but about any country or subject. This is how the mentioned western medias lost all their credibility in me.
- Last but important. In political subject, be a little bit cynical
- the louder people cry the more skeptical need to be
- the accuser is the first to be examined, rather than the accused unless I can see the event unfolding in front of my eyes.
- words from the richer and powerful need to be put more grain of salt.
- etc.
"Clearing the air on the situation in the Depsang Plains in Ladakh, where China has been blocking India’s access to four traditional patrolling points since April this year, a top security officer has told that while there has been no loss of ground this time around, Indian troops have not had access to a large chunk of territory on their side of the for “more than 10 to 15 years” now."
Read your own source !!
Do you get it, india lost 900 square km in that area from the start of the conflict. It has not any more after the stand off !!
Do you not understand your own source ?
Basically, india has conceded Tango Tsao all the way up to finger 4 to China.
It has met China's demand !!
You still do not understand the latest deal between China and India ?
This is a tiny win for india and a HUGE win for China.
Come on, the evidence is so obvious !!
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It is a win for india, because india avoided getting obliterated by China in a war and lose another 60,000 Square km of land to China.
It is a win for China, becausae it achieved its objectives of capturing Galawan Valley and Desprang from indian, two very important strategic locations, gained more than 1000 square km of land from india while only losing a few soliders.
Got it?
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