Ladakh Flash Point

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Russian analyst points out that Russia did everything right, and yet India is acting the child and pouting over why Russia refuses to side with it over China.

Seems, the past few decades of other countries courting India as a counterweight has finally gotten to its head; when india explicitly picks a side: the anglos, it cannot expect the other side to treat it with perks that formerly neutral parties would otherwise be able to benefit from.
We can hopefully expect Russia turning against India and putting the Jai Hinds in their rightful place, which is 6 feet under.
 

Petrolicious88

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The main strategy here is to beef up your ally to the stage whereby they are strong enough to take care of themselves easily and thus help to drag your common enemy down, so that China will not need to face the same enemy at multiple fronts.
That’s unlikely to happen to Pakistan though. It’s economy is in shambles.

While Indian economy is set to become the 3rd largest in the world in 15 years. Think about how much their defense budget can increase year after year compared to Pakistan.
 

Tsin Phan

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I read history, current affairs, economy and do research. I found that Indian media is constantly showing wrong news and propaganda that China is down and India is now super power. Poor Indians have to believe it because there is strict ban on non-Indian media news by Indian government in India.
I think People should use their own brain and eyes to assess what is right and wrong.
 

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That’s unlikely to happen to Pakistan though. It’s economy is in shambles.

While Indian economy is set to become the 3rd largest in the world in 15 years. Think about how much their defense budget can increase year after year compared to Pakistan.
I think it might be a little early to write off Pakistan and a little early for India’s assessment to be written in stone...

The biggest advantage India has is of course its population but it is also one of the most dangerous land mine for India at the moment... if the Indian government can’t resolve the general issues (food and jobs being the most major) within the country then that large rural and relatively poorer population becomes a massive destabilising force instead of a cheap workforce to leverage. If nothing is done and things continue as they are now... there will potentially be a point at which India will stagnate and not in the metaphorical term we are using right now but actual stagnation where no industry is able to grow and services have reached the limit, there is also the consideration that for the moment a great deal of Indian exports can be replaced and for cheaper whilst keeping quality at that...

For Pakistan, there are a few factors out of their control... for example, the potential growth brought by OBOR to the Central Asia countries, such as Kazakhstan, the growth of Xinjiang, the growth of the East African countries and their potential trade with each other all of which could be and would most likely be served by Pakistan via CPEC and OBOR. It may be a little bit idealistic of me but that is a potential lucrative income for Pakistan and is an important route for China too thus if India is threatening the CPEC route as they are right now... this Ladakh situation will end very badly for India and that 15 year estimate will most likely need to be revised again...
 

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Foreign Policy - China Can No Longer Deny that India is a Real Threat on the Line of Actual Control​

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In a year that challenged policymakers across the world, one development will perhaps have the most significant long-term impact in the Indo-Pacific—the ongoing standoff between India and China in the Himalayas. Chinese forces have shown no inclination to back away from the positions they have occupied along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), which divides India- and China-controlled territory in Ladakh region, since April. Meanwhile, Indian troops have been amassing at the disputed border, with New Delhi demanding comprehensive restoration of the status quo ante. Several rounds of military and diplomatic talks have failed to yield any results, underlining the high stakes for both sides.

2020 may well be the year when romanticism about Sino-Indian ties finally died. Many in New Delhi evinced a naive belief that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, India would be able to manage China diplomatically (??? not the other way around?) and that it was possible to keep the shadow of the border dispute from darkening the larger relationship. Even after the 2017 standoff between the two militaries in Dolkam at the India-Bhutan-China border, in which the People’s Liberation Army razed stone bunkers that the Royal Bhutan Army had constructed, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi tried to build a personal relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping. This was as much about the practical necessity of dealing with a much stronger neighbor as it was about shaping the bilateral engagement beyond disputes. It worked for a while, but Beijing clearly had other plans.
 
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Foreign Policy - China Can No Longer Deny that India is a Real Threat on the Line of Actual Control​

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In a year that challenged policymakers across the world, one development will perhaps have the most significant long-term impact in the Indo-Pacific—the ongoing standoff between India and China in the Himalayas. Chinese forces have shown no inclination to back away from the positions they have occupied along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), which divides India- and China-controlled territory in Ladakh region, since April. Meanwhile, Indian troops have been amassing at the disputed border, with New Delhi demanding comprehensive restoration of the status quo ante. Several rounds of military and diplomatic talks have failed to yield any results, underlining the high stakes for both sides.

2020 may well be the year when romanticism about Sino-Indian ties finally died. Many in New Delhi evinced a naive belief that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, India would be able to manage China diplomatically (??? not the other way around?) and that it was possible to keep the shadow of the border dispute from darkening the larger relationship. Even after the 2017 standoff between the two militaries in Dolkam at the India-Bhutan-China border, in which the People’s Liberation Army razed stone bunkers that the Royal Bhutan Army had constructed, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi tried to build a personal relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping. This was as much about the practical necessity of dealing with a much stronger neighbor as it was about shaping the bilateral engagement beyond disputes. It worked for a while, but Beijing clearly had other plans.

Of course this was written by an Indian guy.
 

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That’s unlikely to happen to Pakistan though. It’s economy is in shambles.

Since the day Pakistan was born, both the Brits and the Indians expected us to collapse. We weren't supposed to be born, let alone survive on the street. Five wars later (2 of which were civil) we're still here, and actually accelerating. So "unlikely" means nothing to us.
 

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India does this as 'retaliation' for China barring Indians from coming into China due to high number of Covid-19 cases. Shows how childish India is behaving. This is the consequence of committing the mother of all screw-ups in handling Covid-19. India wanting to bar Chinese from coming into the country is done purely for political muscle flexing. To China, this is inconvenient, but its not gonna do any harm. Besides India is so infested with Covid-19, it would do China good to have Chinese citizens denied from moving in and out of there.

On a side note, India likes to claim not to trust the Covid-19 numbers coming out of China. Well how about India's numbers? We are seeing decreasing no. of new cases and deaths per day. All this is happening when First: Much of the countries not controlling Covid-19 is experiencing a massive surge in cases and deaths. Second: India have lifted most Covid-19 restrictions for quite awhile already. This after 'The Great Indian' lockdown failed so miserably. Third: There are large farmer protests occurring and also no control on crowding. Basically, Covid-19 in India just doesn't make any sense! That's why it was right of China to temporarily bar Indian nationals from entering. With this India today, Pompeo's mantra fits very well: "Distrust, but verify".
 
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