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SpicySichuan

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Does China want to keep India permanently on the defensive by presenting it with the potential of a multiple-front war? I think this latter option carries a lot of risks.
If China were to strike Taiwan, India would surely take advantage of the situation and likely try to grab a chunk (but not the entire thing) of Aksai Chin, so whoever in power in New Delhi could claim that whatever was lost in 1962 has been retaken.
 

Figaro

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If China were to strike Taiwan, India would surely take advantage of the situation and likely try to grab a chunk (but not the entire thing) of Aksai Chin, so whoever in power in New Delhi could claim that whatever was lost in 1962 has been retaken.
I doubt it. Even if 90% of the PLA's overall strength was diverted to fight other fronts, the remaining 10% is more than capable of defending Tibet, including Aksai Chin. Note most certainly 90% of Chinese strength is not required to invade Taiwan or even fight of the United States; much of the Chinese Army and Air Force will still be available to be brought in the fight against India assuming a concurrent Taiwan operation is occurring. Not sure why you're assuming Taiwan would need to consume most of the PLA's operational capacity.
 

Paul_Dirac

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Ya, but that rumor has been spread by your 1.3 billion garbage, is that correct?


Beg you? For what? To learn how to be a beggar like 1.3 billion of you? Are you forgetting that you are the biggest whore of the planet that has been used by literally everybody? You couldn't save your own women,wives & sisters (though in this case, i would say,indian women are most eligible on the planet, no wonder they always had a thing for men from outside) , in fact in some case, you gave them willingly to serve your white master? Do you remember "Let's not fight with British" ? Did you forget the history of your little whore & slave nation who got it's "independence" in a begging bowl?
It's a very embarassing thing to forget that your "forefathers" were the biggest whore in your story, are you ashamed of your past?

Umm, i don't think even if 1.3 billion tiny indians fart the life out of themselves, still they can produce anything substantial. Because your 1.3 billion are literally worthless. Your lil indians don't even have food for themselves. If we need gas out of your a-- ,then we will drag it out of your a-- , trust me lil 1.3 billion whindians ,LOL.

You can't handle it here, don't swarm everywhere like rats, it's irritating. Do the honor of sparing us from your whindian fart.Go home & fart there.
well don’t be too mean otherwise what‘s the difference between us and them?
 

Paul_Dirac

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Do you guys ever get ashamed of spreading such BS fake news? Even the Taiwan Ministry of Defense had to call you guys out for spreading the ridiculous rumor that a PLAAF Su-35 was shot down in Taiwan just yesterday. A couple of days before that, you guys used pictures of old Chinese cemeteries taken last year to prove that these were the burial sites of the supposedly dozens of PLA soldiers killed at Galwan. Then of course last year, you guys without any evidence whatsoever said your air force shot down a PAF F-16 and killed over 300 militants in Balakot. Please have some decency for the sake of this world ... literally everyone is tired of your people's fake news machine.
let them believe what ever they think is true
 

Bill Blazo

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If China were to strike Taiwan, India would surely take advantage of the situation and likely try to grab a chunk (but not the entire thing) of Aksai Chin, so whoever in power in New Delhi could claim that whatever was lost in 1962 has been retaken.
That could certainly happen. But it's just as conceivable that the war could escalate beyond India's intentions, dragging in Pakistan and even other countries. Between Pakistan and China's western forces, I don't like India's odds at all. Fighting a two-front war is rarely a winning strategy (but you can get a win out of it from time to time; see Prussia under Frederick the Great). Who knows, right? This is all pure speculation, and I hope we never have to find out. Wars have a way of defying all expectations.
 

Bill Blazo

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Well, you also need to consider the Indian Navy (backed by the USN and JMSDF) interdicting Chinese oil tankers in the India Ocean effectively cutting off China's maritime silk road under such two-front scenario.

I want to put this Malacca scenario to rest once and for all, so nobody wastes anymore brain cells thinking about it. Suppose India and the US completely shut down all maritime activity in the Malacca Strait and across all other Indonesian straits. I'm giving you that premise.

So what? China would simply shift its economic strategy towards a war economy, the way many nations have done for the last two centuries of modern warfare. It could do this through some simple steps:

1) Cut down on domestic non-military consumption, giving the military greater access to existing oil resources.

2) Import more oil from Russia and Central Asia to make up for some of the losses from the Middle East. It won't cover everything that China has lost, but the point is that it doesn't have to. China just needs enough oil to keep the military and certain critical sectors going. Everyone else can enjoy staying at home for a while!

3) Tap into the strategic reserves, if necessary. Again, the military would receive priority.

4) China has massive oil reserves and produces 3.5 million barrels of oil per day. It could boost production even further if it needs to. The US could and would try to disrupt some of this production, but the priority for the Americans would be Chinese military targets, not oil fields (at least not at first).

Through these simple steps, China could keep fighting against the US for years even while the Indian Ocean is completely shut down to commercial activity.
 

j17wang

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Well, you also need to consider the Indian Navy (backed by the USN and JMSDF) interdicting Chinese oil tankers in the India Ocean effectively cutting off China's maritime silk road under such two-front scenario.

What people don't realize is china does have its own oil production capacity and it gets a good chunk from continental sources. I don't have the exact number, but I believe 50% of china's oil consumption is domestic production, and another 25% is from russia and central asia land pipelines with the remainder from maritime sources. I'm guessing the remaining 25% is mostly from middle east, but there could be some from venezuela, nigeria, malaysia which doesn't need to transit the indian ocean. At most, India would disrupt oil exports from Saudi/Iran/Iraq and while it would be damaging, a chinese economy on wartime footing would be able to continue fighting effectively against India with only 80% pre-war oil capacity. The other thing to realize is that India is even more reliant on imported oil than china, and almost all of it comes from the middle east. PLAAF interceptors based in Xinjiang probably stand a decent chance of sinking any tankers in Gujarat, or being able to lay waste to Jamnagar refinery or any of the ports on the western indian side. From that perspective, its probably India that would have to worry about being cut off from oil compared to China.
 

Hendrik_2000

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What people don't realize is china does have its own oil production capacity and it gets a good chunk from continental sources. I don't have the exact number, but I believe 50% of china's oil consumption is domestic production, and another 25% is from russia and central asia land pipelines with the remainder from maritime sources. I'm guessing the remaining 25% is mostly from middle east, but there could be some from venezuela, nigeria, malaysia which doesn't need to transit the indian ocean. At most, India would disrupt oil exports from Saudi/Iran/Iraq and while it would be damaging, a chinese economy on wartime footing would be able to continue fighting effectively against India with only 80% pre-war oil capacity. The other thing to realize is that India is even more reliant on imported oil than china, and almost all of it comes from the middle east. PLAAF interceptors based in Xinjiang probably stand a decent chance of sinking any tankers in Gujarat, or being able to lay waste to Jamnagar refinery or any of the ports on the western indian side. From that perspective, its probably India that would have to worry about being cut off from oil compared to China.


Exactly plus China is building port at Myanmar Kyaukpyu and has oil and gas pipe line operating from the port I n Case of war I bet they will station warship there and Andaman see is only 1500 km from Yunnan so it should be no problem for fighter J11 B to strike any ship there

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