Ladakh Flash Point

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manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Karthi said:
the entire thread looks like a comedy for me, china is bully all over the world , their expansionist ideology , and slave peoples will suffer in the future . Chinese communist party is spoon feeding fake narratives to its people ,hiding the death of its soldiers , claiming new territories of varuous countries , and acting like a saint . the new Nazis
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The entirety of India looks like a comedy for me. China bully you? LOL India thinks it's someone. The USA, the most powerful country in the world, is China's only rival and adversary. You're not worth it. China's Hercules, America's the hydra, and India's the crab. We're too busy to deal with you unless you ask for it. Scurry off and when you get stepped on because you tried to pinch someone, don't call it bullying; call it your just desserts.

The CCP doesn't post stories inventing fighter jet shoot-downs that didn't occur, enemy death counts as Indian casualties + X, several vastly different accounts of the same event and claiming to "capture" territory that was vacant and on its own side of the LAC. Indian media is the joke of the world; its stories are like asking a person who's drunk and high to explain the quantum theories, which, in his state, he vehemently believes that he understands.
Karthi said:
LOL. what you people have evidence and what we provide is delusional . 1962 was one such cowardliness by the mad dog china , after taht you never won a single clash -with not only against India not anywhere else be it Korea or Vietnam. stop bullying and live peacefully let us live peacefully
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It was cowardly to crush you in a war you started? Why, because that's like beating up a disabled person who curses at you and claws at you when you should just walk away and leave him be? LOL

China has never lost a conflict since the CCP arose. China wins fights that India would soil itself thinking about getting involved in. Be honest, would India ever dare fight the US? China met the US twice, and defeated it both times, in Korea and Vietnam. (By the way, Korea was before 1962, genius.) When China entered the Korean War, there was almost no North Korea left; MacArthur said his horse would drink from the Yalu River that night. Then the PLA marched across the frozen stream under General Peng Dehuai's orders to consider themselves dead the instant they emerge from the icy waters. The PLA pushed America into the longest retreat in US military history and now, North Korea is bigger than South Korea. Even your Bollywood imagination pales in comparison to true Chinese valor. You want to live in peace? Stay away from the LAC and don't ever make the PLA give you a second helping of 1962. We won't come looking for you; you're not important enough.

Karthi said:
MKI detected J20 at long ranges , J20 is stealthy in front but stealth features are poor in rear and sides . and all other else are typical pakistani Fan boyism , doesn't need reply
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Not that it's believable that you actually know what you saw but even by that logic, you still wouldn't know J-20s were there until they already shot down your junk and were turning to leave.
 
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jmd

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xplosive1980 said:
Well you need to ask CCP why they behave like this and never release pictures of their soldiers and give them their due...we proudly announce it and give them their due respect.
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Well the fact is Galwan clash was a total loss for India & most likely nobody on the Chinese side died, not that it is something to be proud of. Why is it that there are no leaked images of dead Chinese soldiers in Indian social media. Since the dead bodies were collected by IA troops on the next day from near the clash site, atleast there should have been some images of the destruction wrecked by Indian troops with IA, remember frontline troops carry cameras & webcam all the time. If such images images had existed, Modi would have wasted no opportunity to leak those images to media to regain some of the lost respect. India has lost territory, men & face big time. No doubt about it.

Ask yourself:
why did 17 Indian soldiers die of hypothermia out of 20,
why did only Chinese side release prisoners while we had no prisoners to bargain for,
why did the location of the clash site remained under Chinese occupation if we really won the fight,

Chinese kept quite as there is nothing to brag about & humiliate an already defeated opponent, additionally they gave Modi & Indian media the opportunity to save some face by spreading all sorts of bullshit.

Actual action doesn't happen as we see in Bollywood movies. Superhuman strength doesn't exist. Chinese wins nearly 100 of medals in total in every Olympics while we never manage to cross 1 or 2. What does this fact tell you about the overall health & fitness levels of Chinese society in general. This factor will eventually creep in the fitness & toughness levels of the soldiers also, although the same may not be apparent at a cursory glance. So in an equal fair fight, it would be foolish to believe that they lose lives at more than 1:1 ratio. Even in a fight highly skewed towards India, Chinese are not likely to lose lives at a ratio worse than 2:1. So Indian propaganda of killing 140 Chinese soldiers by snapping their necks is clearly hallucination.
 
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jmd said:
Well the fact is Galwan clash was a total loss for India & most likely nobody on the Chinese side died, not that it is something to be proud of. Why is it that there are no leaked images of dead Chinese soldiers in Indian social media. Since the dead bodies were collected by IA troops on the next day from near the clash site, atleast there should have been some images of the destruction wrecked by Indian troops with IA, remember frontline troops carry cameras & webcam all the time. If such images images had existed, Modi would have wasted no opportunity to leak those images to media to regain some of the lost respect. India has lost territory, men & face big time. No doubt about it.

Ask yourself:
why did 17 Indian soldiers die of hypothermia out of 20,
why did only Chinese side release prisoners while we had no prisoners to bargain for,
why did the location of the clash site remained under Chinese occupation if we really won the fight,

Chinese kept quite as there is nothing to brag about & humiliate an already defeated opponent, additionally they gave Modi & Indian media the opportunity to save some face by spreading all sorts of bullshit.

Actual action doesn't happen as we see in Bollywood movies. Superhuman strength doesn't exist. Chinese wins nearly 100 of medals in total in every Olympics while we never manage to cross 1 or 2. What does this fact tell you about the overall health & fitness levels of Chinese society in general. This factor will eventually creep in the fitness & toughness levels of the soldiers also, although the same may not be apparent at a cursory glance. So in an equal fair fight, it would be foolish to believe that they lose lives at more than 1:1 ratio. Even in a fight highly skewed towards India, Chinese are not likely to lose lives at a ratio worse than 2:1. So Indian propaganda of killing 140 Chinese soldiers by snapping their necks is clearly hallucination.
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Finally... a reasonable person from India, and from Assam no less.

Welcome to the forum dude.

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ougoah

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Honestly the politics of this conflict have been discussed here many times and while off-topic, it is obviously intrinsic to the nature of this issue. Perhaps why the moderators give some leeway on it. Newcomers, especially sensible and respectable ones will not feel obliged to go through the 300+pages which is often why the politics get revisited. Perhaps it will be fitting to open a thread dedicated to the political discussion behind this Ladakh confrontation. If any newcomers or members want to raise certain political topics, let's do that in a new and separate thread. They are certainly interesting talking points! Albeit riddled with emotional pitfalls.
 
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pepone1234

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xplosive1980 said:
Well your G 219 is not too far away and once your airfield are neutralized , Tibet is up for grab. So your supply lines are pretty much vulnerable.

As for PLAAF goes, they might have numerical superiority over all but it;s the man and tactics behind these machines which won war. Chinese pilots & their tactics have been exposed multiple times in various exercises and lack the practical war experience. Remember the war exercises that China had with Malaysia... your fighters were bunnies for Malaysia air force.

FYI - your most stealth fighter was tracked and recorded by Our fighters some 100 KM's away from LAC ...
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Where were those superior man and tactics of the indian army when they were obliterated by the chinese in 1962?
 
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jmd said:
Well the fact is Galwan clash was a total loss for India & most likely nobody on the Chinese side died, not that it is something to be proud of. Why is it that there are no leaked images of dead Chinese soldiers in Indian social media. Since the dead bodies were collected by IA troops on the next day from near the clash site, atleast there should have been some images of the destruction wrecked by Indian troops with IA, remember frontline troops carry cameras & webcam all the time. If such images images had existed, Modi would have wasted no opportunity to leak those images to media to regain some of the lost respect. India has lost territory, men & face big time. No doubt about it.

Ask yourself:
why did 17 Indian soldiers die of hypothermia out of 20,
why did only Chinese side release prisoners while we had no prisoners to bargain for,
why did the location of the clash site remained under Chinese occupation if we really won the fight,

Chinese kept quite as there is nothing to brag about & humiliate an already defeated opponent, additionally they gave Modi & Indian media the opportunity to save some face by spreading all sorts of bullshit.

Actual action doesn't happen as we see in Bollywood movies. Superhuman strength doesn't exist. Chinese wins nearly 100 of medals in total in every Olympics while we never manage to cross 1 or 2. What does this fact tell you about the overall health & fitness levels of Chinese society in general. This factor will eventually creep in the fitness & toughness levels of the soldiers also, although the same may not be apparent at a cursory glance. So in an equal fair fight, it would be foolish to believe that they lose lives at more than 1:1 ratio. Even in a fight highly skewed towards India, Chinese are not likely to lose lives at a ratio worse than 2:1. So Indian propaganda of killing 140 Chinese soldiers by snapping their necks is clearly hallucination.
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Believe me, pal, many if not the majority of common people in China would feel much better in their heart if there were not 20 Indian soldiers perished in that stupid conflict, we did already when we knew that actually 17 of them could well have survived if not for the harsh natural environment itself and lack of rescue effort and timely medical aid on India's part, because very honestly, although it was a military encounter, PLA of our side seemed only suffered injuries. I for one frowned and held my breath to see the screen pictures of the families of those soldiers, God, in the end we are all just common people, they are not another species to us, just as we should not be to them......

Point be, many Chinese people don't bear such predestined malice against Indians, and we would still not consider India our existential threat, in fact, due to so much similarities between the two both-far-and-close neighbours, especially considering what both have gone through during the last centuries and how both have been poor to death for generations, it's nearly impossible for many of us not to have any almost natural empathy for the other 1.4 billion people. So I really hope both can come to solve the boarder issue for good, at least not dwell on it to the point the two become mortal enemies with only blood between our hands and fury in our eyes, really not worth it. There are so much more important issues for both countries and for their people's future, even for their own sake. Ordinary Chinese have been dreaming so long of a better-off life and finding a more equal and confident footing for our poeple on the world stage, especially among the developed Western countries, and there are obviously much advantage if we can work together with India, even if from China's perspective alone.
(i know we are all avrage Joes on this small forum, just want to reduce even if a slice of hostility here)
 
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