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How do the recent border tensions fit into China's larger grand strategy with India? Is China jockeying for position for a permanent border agreement by grabbing as much territory as it can? To me it's pretty clear that India will never get Aksai Chin and China will never get Arunachal, at least not without a major war. But neither government actually wants a major war; they've both been pretty clear about this. The most I can see either one tolerating is a local and isolated conflict, but then you always have to worry about escalation and things getting out of hand. So what's the point of prolonging these border tensions instead of just finalizing the border? To rally domestic public opinion by having an enemy you can point to? Does China want to keep India permanently on the defensive by presenting it with the potential of a multiple-front war? I think this latter option carries a lot of risks. Yes, India would have Germany's strategic dilemma in a World War III (facing two major opponents on both blanks), but so would China, facing the US in the east and India to the south.

Provocative question time. A divided Asia clearly helps the United States. Wouldn't China want to maintain friendly relations India to counter American power? Or does Chinese the government believe it can do this without Indian help? I tend to think they believe the latter, that they don't need a friendly India, but again, there are many risks involved with that grand strategy.

As far as I know, India is the only continental Asian country with which China has not finalized its border. Why is this? Because their border is so complex (Himalayas and all)? Because both sides believe they can still make territorial gains? Some other reason?

It'll be interesting to see if the Chinese make further pushes in the winter, when it'll be very difficult for the Indians to hold and supply their new forward positions.
 

muddie

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How do the recent border tensions fit into China's larger grand strategy with India? Is China jockeying for position for a permanent border agreement by grabbing as much territory as it can? To me it's pretty clear that India will never get Aksai Chin and China will never get Arunachal, at least not without a major war. But neither government actually wants a major war; they've both been pretty clear about this. The most I can see either one tolerating is a local and isolated conflict, but then you always have to worry about escalation and things getting out of hand. So what's the point of prolonging these border tensions instead of just finalizing the border? To rally domestic public opinion by having an enemy you can point to? Does China want to keep India permanently on the defensive by presenting it with the potential of a multiple-front war? I think this latter option carries a lot of risks. Yes, India would have Germany's strategic dilemma in a World War III (facing two major opponents on both blanks), but so would China, facing the US in the east and India to the south.

Provocative question time. A divided Asia clearly helps the United States. Wouldn't China want to maintain friendly relations India to counter American power? Or does Chinese the government believe it can do this without Indian help? I tend to think they believe the latter, that they don't need a friendly India, but again, there are many risks involved with that grand strategy.

As far as I know, India is the only continental Asian country with which China has not finalized its border. Why is this? Because their border is so complex (Himalayas and all)? Because both sides believe they can still make territorial gains? Some other reason?

It'll be interesting to see if the Chinese make further pushes in the winter, when it'll be very difficult for the Indians to hold and supply their new forward positions.

Ultimately depends if India wants to be the aggressor or not. If India forces a conflict and loses, India will lose all territories under dispute with China and Pakistan, that includes Arunachal to China.
 

tamsen_ikard

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Ultimately depends if India wants to be the aggressor or not. If India forces a conflict and loses, India will lose all territories under dispute with China and Pakistan, that includes Arunachal to China.



China will never go for full Arunachal. Have you seen the Terrian map of that area? The current LAC goes through white colored mountains which are very high mountains. This is the perfect border to have. Just after these mountains, the entire Arunachal is a downward slope that progressively gets greener. The only exception to this is the LAC in the west, near Tawang. That is the part China might be interested to have but I am not sure about that either. If China really wanted Tawang, they could have kept it in 1962 when they captured it. For China, the current border is fine and defendable. I think Arunachal is a bargaining chip for China for other concessions from India.
 

SpicySichuan

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Winter is coming I guess the Chinese soldier will have warm bed and plenty of food this winter in ladakh or anywhere along the LAC via Beijing walker

PLA Tibetan garrison's smart clean energy movable container baracks sitting on the very edge of Chinese Indian borders, providing 25℃ indoor temperature all year round.

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PLA Tibetan garrison smart container barracks, fully operational on solar energy, fully air-conditioned, able to work normally even below 30 degrees celsius, indoor temperature can be adjusted between 16-30 degrees celsius.

Highly digital and with good ventilation, can have up to 6 soliders live in each one, highly movable with the movement of the troops.

The barracks' design and material make them sturdy, moisture-proof and cold-resistant, even keep the room temperature at 25 degrees Celsius even in the worst of snow storms

Equipped with cutting-edge camouflage nets, the barracks are difficult to detect and suitable for field operations.

The new facilities provide strong logistical support and ensured the troops' combat capability.

New barracks and other improvements can let troops have enough rest and guarantee their quality of life so that they can work together with better morale.

According to the official People's Liberation Army (PLA) website 81.cn, all frontline training troops and border outposts barracks have been equipped with oxygen generators and oxygen cylinders.

How PLA Tibetan garrison's smart clean energy movable container baracks work


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These food look way better than those offered by Chinese restaurants here in DC. However, if you have Sichuan or Hunan dishes, there would be "consequences" 8-12 hours later. Therefore, I don't think it would be a good idea to serve Sichuan or Hunan/Jiangxi dishes (or anything spicy) to frontline troops.
 

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Check it out, PLA road mobile bakery currently deployed to Tibet at 4,500m. Only need one man to operate, 2 minutes to deploy once in position, can bake 1,200 buns per hour, 80 minutes from start to finish, carries 7 day worth of supplies on-board.
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Please please, let me have a bite! Just one bite!
 
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