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eprash said:
A bit off topic, But doesn't China has the best track record against Martial/Nomadic people when compared to other Mercantile/Settled farming people, All contemporary ancient Civilizations lost their ground to "barbarians", Sumer lost to Akkadians Indus Valley to Indo-Aryans Egypt to Rome and Rome itself to Germanic tribes but China still stands they even put up a 23 year long resistance against Mongols the Martial race that wiped out the best European and Arab armies of that time and made the biggest empire prior to Industrialization, I mean you can get more martial than that.
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Pretty much. Mongols aside successive waves of steppe people went west to raid Europe after they got their asses handed to them by Chinese dynasties. Or sometimes it's even more indirect than that, sometimes the Chinese kick out a horde, and they fight someone in central asia and kick them out, and that group end up going to Europe to cause trouble.

Imagine you were an European back in those days and you ask one of those "horse people" why they're here and they tell you an empire in the far east kicked them out of their homeland. That's a pretty scary thought.
 
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xplosive1980 said:
If you so confident of them than bring them near to borders.. or they cannot take off with their full weapon load and fuel in tibet... tell me the truth...
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Because unlike you and the rest of the Indians, China ran combat simulations and know for a fact that when war breaks out rockets and ballistic missiles will destroy the airports and the planes close to the borders in them in the first 5 minutes.

Therefore they put the planes in the back to give more time for SAMs to react for extra survivability and it’s only an extra 15 minutes for the j20s to reach the border anyway. Meanwhile, Indians are gonna get kicked in the crotch with their forward deployment because none of that is going to survive the first, second and third opening barrages.

How that escapes your mind bothers me. How long is it going to take for India to finally man up and do something practical instead of ejaculating in their brains?
 
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Cuthalin said:
Because unlike you and the rest of the Indians, China ran combat simulations and know for a fact that when war breaks out rockets and ballistic missiles will destroy the airports and the planes close to the borders in them in the first 5 minutes.

Therefore they put the planes in the back to give more time for SAMs to react for extra survivability and it’s only an extra 15 minutes for the j20s to reach the border anyway. Meanwhile, Indians are gonna get kicked in the crotch with their forward deployment because none of that is going to survive the first, second and third opening barrages.

How that escapes your mind bothers me. How long is it going to take for India to finally man up and do something practical instead of ejaculating in their brains?
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Have the Indians not learned the lessons of the Six Day War or the first two days of Operation Barbarossa? You don't need combat simulations to understand that placing a bunch of planes and equipment at bases very close to the front line is a recipe for disaster. But it does seem the PLAAF is playing it very cautiously considering India does not have a large inventory of ballistic/cruise missiles or artillery to lob at the air bases. Even if there is a massive Indian air strike (assuming India launches first), I doubt the bases will be put out of action.
 
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India always says it’s not the india of 1962. Yes indeed, your military is around the 1990 mark, you might have a chance against Saddam Hussein.
 
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As I mentioned in a previous post, if India wants to change the situation on the ground and return to a status quo ante, it will need to conduct offensive kinetic operations, because China has sized “the high ground”! India certainly can do this to a degree and in select areas, but at what cost? Any military aggressive moves by India will likely be met by a timely Chinese response. Neither China nor India want an escalation on this issue, but India is left with few options because of the domestic political position it has placed itself in. What is the Indian leadership’s calculus here? Do they risk escalation to placate domestic political needs?
 
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Hendrik_2000 said:
Winter is coming I guess the Chinese soldier will have warm bed and plenty of food this winter in ladakh or anywhere along the LAC via Beijing walker

PLA Tibetan garrison's smart clean energy movable container baracks sitting on the very edge of Chinese Indian borders, providing 25℃ indoor temperature all year round.

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PLA Tibetan garrison smart container barracks, fully operational on solar energy, fully air-conditioned, able to work normally even below 30 degrees celsius, indoor temperature can be adjusted between 16-30 degrees celsius.

Highly digital and with good ventilation, can have up to 6 soliders live in each one, highly movable with the movement of the troops.

The barracks' design and material make them sturdy, moisture-proof and cold-resistant, even keep the room temperature at 25 degrees Celsius even in the worst of snow storms

Equipped with cutting-edge camouflage nets, the barracks are difficult to detect and suitable for field operations.

The new facilities provide strong logistical support and ensured the troops' combat capability.

New barracks and other improvements can let troops have enough rest and guarantee their quality of life so that they can work together with better morale.

According to the official People's Liberation Army (PLA) website 81.cn, all frontline training troops and border outposts barracks have been equipped with oxygen generators and oxygen cylinders.

How PLA Tibetan garrison's smart clean energy movable container baracks work


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Doesn't matter. The usual suspects on PDF are already calling it "staged" or PS.
 
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Karthi said:
Chinese communist party is spoon feeding fake narratives to its people ,hiding the death of its soldiers , claiming new territories of varuous countries , and acting like a saint . the new Nazis
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The "Nazi" title has already been taken by your Indian friends on this thread, who self-declared your Indian army as the "Waffen-SS."

As for China being the "new Nazis," do you understand the difference between 'left' (communism) and 'right' (fascism) on the political spectrum? The CCP is literally the opposite of rightist fascism. While Modi has been declared a rightist fascist by neutral 3rd party analysts. Also, the racist ideology of his RSS and the caste-system is a perfect fit, ironically. Read the racially supremacist language used by the Indian members on this thread, who described other ethnicities on this forum as an 'infestation' (exactly the language the Nazis used to describe the Jews.)
 
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