So from the map
1. India's army can't even keep a "classified map" secret.
2. By the leaked map, there is no more any disputed territory, that belongs to China & India's army occupied it.
Can we come to this conclusion?
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1. India's army can't even keep a "classified map" secret.
2. By the leaked map, there is no more any disputed territory, that belongs to China & India's army occupied it.
Can we come to this conclusion?
manqiangrexue
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LOL What the hell is this? A dude says it "looks" like a classified map without a source or date. Yeah, they're on China's side of the LAC now because China has actual control over them. That could be an Indian "classified" map showing the commander who actually controls which region now, which would be the meaning of LAC. Nobody knows what that is except a map with a line drawn over it by someone with a marker. That's Donald Trump hurricane map level crap.
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So PLA having presence in Black top and Helmet top is nothing to report on then. Why did the Indian media give so much noise to the fact the PLA has control over the Chinese side of the alleged "Indian LAC"? lol let's think about this for a moment and consider the claims made by whoever is presenting this map.
IA's ingress into Reqin, if true at all, proves the CCP is again telling the truth. Notice the Chinese side has never given contradicting or untrue statements about this confrontation since May. They kept statement lacking in detail and simple but so far the evidence points to the truth from the earliest subdued IA (Indian soldiers tied up) to this recent drama. So Indian ingress to Reqin (at least last week) may have been true and the PLA responded. Any damages done is the cause of IA ingress into China's side. Apparently (if this map is an accurate rep of what India considers the actual LAC) it would seem the IA went into what itself recognises as Chinese territory. Possibly in an attempt to play towards its own textbook response on reacting to any PLA capture of their claims. In this case, Galwan valley to Finger 4 Pangong.
India's claims of thwarting PLA attack is flimsy since there is no evidence (conveniently) and a total absence of motive from China. It has settled what it wanted to settle already - Galway valley points to Finger 4. Why would the PLA go onto the offensive in this position? It's waiting for any aggression and that's all. If the IA intrusion into Reqin (or some other part) is true, and it is claimed by the CCP that it is, then what the Chinese representative said after the talks today is also spot on. India is causing this new "confrontation". But it must be said that India is expected to react in some way sooner or later. This seems to have been its opening move.
IA's ingress into Reqin, if true at all, proves the CCP is again telling the truth. Notice the Chinese side has never given contradicting or untrue statements about this confrontation since May. They kept statement lacking in detail and simple but so far the evidence points to the truth from the earliest subdued IA (Indian soldiers tied up) to this recent drama. So Indian ingress to Reqin (at least last week) may have been true and the PLA responded. Any damages done is the cause of IA ingress into China's side. Apparently (if this map is an accurate rep of what India considers the actual LAC) it would seem the IA went into what itself recognises as Chinese territory. Possibly in an attempt to play towards its own textbook response on reacting to any PLA capture of their claims. In this case, Galwan valley to Finger 4 Pangong.
India's claims of thwarting PLA attack is flimsy since there is no evidence (conveniently) and a total absence of motive from China. It has settled what it wanted to settle already - Galway valley points to Finger 4. Why would the PLA go onto the offensive in this position? It's waiting for any aggression and that's all. If the IA intrusion into Reqin (or some other part) is true, and it is claimed by the CCP that it is, then what the Chinese representative said after the talks today is also spot on. India is causing this new "confrontation". But it must be said that India is expected to react in some way sooner or later. This seems to have been its opening move.
Wrong. As per TOI the map is several years old
manqiangrexue
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Where is it? Where is the article and date label? Indian media has no idea what they're talking about anyway. They report PLA deaths that never occurred with accounts of events that contradict each other, and report aircraft shoot-downs that are refuted by both sides. TOI is garbage like all Indian reporting. One article says China took 1,000 km of Indian territory and another one says all that was Chinese to begin with. Indian media doesn't even attempt to find the truth; it only wavers between one group that wants to make India look tough and another that wants to make India look like a victim and these groups just make fools out of each other day in and day out. The result is that I can have a random dream about tomorrow and it would be more accurate than Indian reporting.
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As already mentioned, TOI's (and in fact all Indian media and gov) reputation is shot to shit. It's comedically pathetic how many bhakts still give any Indian media and authority respect after they've been caught out lying time and time again??
Lies:
1. Nothing happened in May when CCP said IA and PLA had a confrontation where PLA subdued many IA and disarmed them. Later photo evidence of IA tied up.
2. June clash/es resulted in casualties at first denied by Indian gov and Modi. CCP issued statement saying casualties were inflicted without mentioning any details to those casualties or which side they belong. Later Indian gov had to slowly admit not just their death toll but also the captured and returned IA... after days and weeks of avoiding the truth.
3. Indians present fake names of PLA killed. Proven to be a list of names from PLA generals in the 20th century taken off wikipedia... word for word. Have some fucking shame or at least learn to craft better lies.
4. Indians claim ridiculous PLA death counts and stories, having zero confirmation by any foreign government, not even their own. Their stories are wild from PLA hunting them down in the night to 1 jawan killing over a dozen PLA with his bare hands. Bollywood is pretty intensely unrealistic and we're not talking about cinematic style like Wuxia flying. Indians believe in some bollywood James Bond style nonsense and probably interpret them quite literally.
5. PLA graveyard constructed in the 20th century and reported on before 2020 is presented as legitimate grave site for Ladakh clash soldiers. Photoshopped fake busted.
6. Claims Taiwan shot down a Su-35 and immediately denied AND condemned by Taiwan. Seems like they don't want Indians talking for them lol.
7. Modi constantly denying actualities and pretending there is nothing happening but banning apps on the side lol.
After these egregious offenses on the truth, how on earth is anyone to take India's word seriously??
The first casualty when war comes is truth. I guess that does lend some credence of the claim of "Martial Race". They keep kill the truth 24 hours a day.
Lol martial race. They do like to fill themselves full of their own farts. Not even the Mongolians referred to themselves this way. Don't remember Vikings doing this either. Really one of those small dog syndromes. Noisy, full of hot air and false bravado.
Seriously who calls themselves a "martial race"?!? That's some next level insecurity. The martial race was subdued, disarmed, and tied up by some random PLA uncles.
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Official Media Organisation bad, Social Media worse.
People are tired official news because they are tired of being lied to and the lies aren’t even the ones they like, so they turn to social media where all they hear are sweet lies.
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