Ladakh Flash Point

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plawolf

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Here is the video of Pravin Sawhney talking about the Ladakh situation:

Good and interesting analysis, but I think he is being a little overly pessimistic of India’s chances.

That is not because the PLA lacks the capabilities he described, but because much of those capabilities are not meant for India.

The PLA knows first hand how much of an impact a big psychological shock can have in revolutionising the institutional thinking of a major military. After all, they themselves experience it first hand when seeing western military capabilities unleashed during the first Gulf War.

It does not want to give the Americans a similar rude awakening to potentially spur on a massive US military modernisation programme similar to the one the PLA is only just finishing.

As such, I think if there is a broader shooting war, the PLA will limit its next generation and non-conventional assets to only limited and hidden testing operations rather than have them become the central core around which PLA combat doctrine would have originally intended.

The key operational objectives for those systems and assets would not be to win the war as they are intended to do, but rather merely to test and validate capabilities and tactics while remaining undetected. That will inevitably means very limited and niche roles to ensure opsec.

The bulk of the fighting would instead fall to more conventional systems and assets. But even there, Chinese advantage is pretty dominant, which is a key reason as to why the PLA can afford to not use its newest and most powerful toys and still win comfortably.

The Indian leadership would have to be totally delusional from drinking its own Kool Aid fake news to want to actually get into a shooting war with China.
 

SoupDumplings

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... how, exactly? Please explain.
It's possible that with the rising number of new cases of coronavirus, along with predictions of a weak Indian economy, Indian politicians may decide to prolong the standoff and ride a wave of nationalism. As long as it remains low risk at least. But with the recent deaths, they might have to change their mind.
 

j17wang

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The de-escalation seems to have accelerated from both sides. It appears both governments are using what should be described as "minimum acceptable language" for a clash with fatal casualties. This is barely even registering in Chinese news while in India the BJP is only saying enough so hawkish elements don't accuse them of treason.

China's stock markets have barely budged and even in India, where this is getting more prominent coverage, Sensex only closed down 97 points at 33,507 and Nifty declined 32 points lower to 9,881, and again driven mostly by domestic news. I expect this will be out of front pages news in India by end of this friday.

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On the flip side, this has shown the fragility of even physically fit people at such high altitudes and inhospitable weather. The latest clashes will likely acceleration a push in China to deploy autonomous robots/sentries to monitor the LAC, similar to what South Korea did in the DMZ (Unitree's Aliengo comes to mind). While India currently doesn't have as many robotic systems, I expect they wouldn't be too far behind to deploy unmanned systems to maintain parity. Of course ground troops will still be around from both sides, but they would likely stay further back.
 

Mohsin77

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... Indian politicians may decide to prolong the standoff


What part of this situation is under India's control?

If India accepts the new status-quo, that isn't India's decision. That is China enforcing its decision on India. It means the Indian Army will have to live with all the negative operational and strategic consequences. So it seems to me that @sukhoi_30MKI is literally claiming that somehow, Defeat = Victory (lolz.) Indian politicians/media can spin it however they want, it doesn't change the facts on the ground.

The only alternative is for India to escalate and fight to reverse the situation. Is India prepared to do that? I don't think so.
 

Skywatcher

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Or someone in India jumped the gun without authorization from Modi and sent troops across the Galwan LAC, if the Chinese reports are correct about the Indians crossing the LAC.
 
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