Exactly, A lot of sources are saying that the casualties on the Chinese side are few. Let Bollywood heal the masses and the military leaders cool each the tension off.
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Exactly, A lot of sources are saying that the casualties on the Chinese side are few. Let Bollywood heal the masses and the military leaders cool each the tension off.
AssassinsMace
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That's not a surprising comment. It's expected.
India even admitted that over 40 of their soldiers (probably more) were captured by the Chinese and returned. And yet we haven't heard of a single Chinese soldier being captured by the Indian side. That along indicates to me that the Chinese came out on top and their casualties should be considerably lower than those of the Indians.
Quickie
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I think it's quite possible as you really don't know what kind of injuries that can be sustained when you have over a hundred soldiers going against each other with blunt weapons.
After all, that's how the ancient army fights with sharp as well as blunt weapons when facing heavily armored opponents.
Lack of medical attention could also be a reason because of the large number of injured and the lack of medical facilities in the high altitude.
Mr T
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Are you for real?
It's virtually impossible for two large groups of people to fight each other hand-to-hand and only one side to sustain injuries. Indeed, even the Global Times admitted there were Chinese casualties but the PLA haven't released them, presumably to avoid whipping up anger amongst Chinese nationalists.
AssassinsMace
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I guess if they were carrying something like this, there could be that many casualties without guns.
SteelBird
Colonel
Are you serious? This is some type of weapon for demons/evils!
plawolf
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20+ dead isn’t really surprising in a massed brawl between hundreds of fit young men trained to kill, its just that in the past both sides were holding back to not cross the line of lethality.
Obviously something very different went down this time, which could either be caused by a policy shift to change the RoE, or something so drastic happened on the ground as to trigger lethal response as per standard RoE.
There is surprising little information publically available on such a significant shift, that in itself is telling. It would suggest to me that this wasn’t caused by some deliberate top-down policy shift on the part of either government, as if that was the case, we would be getting a flood of information and official announcements since the side that initiated the shift would have been expecting fatalities and had all their ducks in a row in advanced. Just look at the recent Indian-Pakistan air clash. The Indians went on a media blitz almost before their planes returned from their mission into Pakistan. And similarly, we had a near live stream when the PAF retaliated against India.
The deafening silence from both governments suggest neither planned or really expected this, so are busy trying to establish the facts, and probably talking to the other side, before they make any official public announcements on the matter.
Based on the severity of the Indian losses, I expect deaths on the PLA side as well. Indeed, that feels like the most likely cause to me with the facts available.
The Indians have already ambushed a PLA officer trying to talk to them, so they have form in starting fights. In addition, in the bragging video posted by Indians of the aftermath of the last ambush, the Indian troops looked very ill disciplined and almost wild with rage, barely even listening to their officer.
In addition, it is unusual and significant that the CO of the regiment would be present on the front lines of a clash, never mind killed in action.
His biography lists him as initially serving in Kashmir, so this looks like the recently transferred hot head who was the primary cause of the earlier clashes and increase in tensions along the boarder.
Feels most likely that India and China struck a deal that the colonel didn’t like, so he took his men out looking for trouble to derail the deal and found more than he was bargaining for.
If the Indian troops were already pumped up on nationalist BS to the point of becoming a near uncontrollably undisciplined mob to start with, and you have a CO looking for trouble and cutting them loose or even encouraging them to even more violence, it’s entirely plausible, likely even, that the Indians attacked a small PLA forward unit who weren’t expecting that level of violence and killed some of them.
When PLA reinforcements arrived and saw what the Indians did, the gloves would have truly come off, and we are now seeing the consequences.
Obviously something very different went down this time, which could either be caused by a policy shift to change the RoE, or something so drastic happened on the ground as to trigger lethal response as per standard RoE.
There is surprising little information publically available on such a significant shift, that in itself is telling. It would suggest to me that this wasn’t caused by some deliberate top-down policy shift on the part of either government, as if that was the case, we would be getting a flood of information and official announcements since the side that initiated the shift would have been expecting fatalities and had all their ducks in a row in advanced. Just look at the recent Indian-Pakistan air clash. The Indians went on a media blitz almost before their planes returned from their mission into Pakistan. And similarly, we had a near live stream when the PAF retaliated against India.
The deafening silence from both governments suggest neither planned or really expected this, so are busy trying to establish the facts, and probably talking to the other side, before they make any official public announcements on the matter.
Based on the severity of the Indian losses, I expect deaths on the PLA side as well. Indeed, that feels like the most likely cause to me with the facts available.
The Indians have already ambushed a PLA officer trying to talk to them, so they have form in starting fights. In addition, in the bragging video posted by Indians of the aftermath of the last ambush, the Indian troops looked very ill disciplined and almost wild with rage, barely even listening to their officer.
In addition, it is unusual and significant that the CO of the regiment would be present on the front lines of a clash, never mind killed in action.
His biography lists him as initially serving in Kashmir, so this looks like the recently transferred hot head who was the primary cause of the earlier clashes and increase in tensions along the boarder.
Feels most likely that India and China struck a deal that the colonel didn’t like, so he took his men out looking for trouble to derail the deal and found more than he was bargaining for.
If the Indian troops were already pumped up on nationalist BS to the point of becoming a near uncontrollably undisciplined mob to start with, and you have a CO looking for trouble and cutting them loose or even encouraging them to even more violence, it’s entirely plausible, likely even, that the Indians attacked a small PLA forward unit who weren’t expecting that level of violence and killed some of them.
When PLA reinforcements arrived and saw what the Indians did, the gloves would have truly come off, and we are now seeing the consequences.
It looks like a ps photo.
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