Ladakh Flash Point

twineedle said:

I actually agree with some of what you said in your "big picture posts" I thought I have made that clear.

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I didn't quote you in most of them that aren't addressing something you said. Most that don't quote you are for the benefit of the thread but they get buried under mountains and mountains of talking about nanometer details that only show the big picture is how it is and the likely negotiations at the moment are how I suspect they are.

India traditionally had a bit more presence along the northern aspect of this total dispute because they want to challenge Aksai Chin. It could be why China demanding this northern aspect becoming a buffer like on Pangong is not sitting well with the Indian side and why PLA has not disengaged which the Americans pretty much want to call a Chinese invasion of India even thought it is nothing like that... which of course you agree.

The map of the Indian claim line and chinese claim lines are pretty clear for those interested. No evidence has so far been presented disproving this map.

PiSigma said:

I heard the PLA occupied new Delhi the other day, but they pulled back because it was too polluted and too covidy. I have absolute unrefutable evidence of a squible I drew on Google maps. Believe me.

You won't see it on satellite or on the street because new Delhi looks the same before and after a invasion (like Detroit).. a run down sh!Thole.

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Nah. The Indian government would say that LAC has been at New Delhi.

Following that Google will redo the LAC at New Delhi.

The Bhakts would be happy because no land were lost (as LAC wasn't violated).

All would be fine and China would be left wondering how skillful India is at persuading itself of alternative reality.

So now google takes orders from the Indian government? lol

twineedle said:

The map of the Indian claim line and chinese claim lines are pretty clear for those interested. No evidence has so far been presented disproving this map.

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Claim lines, NOT LAC.
China claims a lot of things. India does too. Why post it over and over?

Give a detailed map of Patrol Points 19,20,17A,18 and India's LAC. link it to some source of repute.

All this issue will simmer down. Period.

twineedle said:

So now google takes orders from the Indian government? lol

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No, but it follows it.
India has in the past protested to Google regarding maps. Indian government also makes requests for correction to Facebook, Twitter and other internet companies.

Any actions that displease the Indian government can carry retribution and harm to the operations in India.

Xsizor said:

Claim lines, NOT LAC.
China claims a lot of things. India does too. Why post it over and over?

Give a detailed map of Patrol Points 19,20,17A,18 and India's LAC. link it to some source of repute.

All this issue will simmer down. Period.

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The Chinese claims are clearly marked in yellow. The LAC(indian claim line) in red. Multiple maps/images have corroborated the one I have posted, none have corroborated Shukla's. You should ask yourself why there is no other map on the internet showing the patrol points at the specific location he has put them.

Simple question. Is there any evidence showing that the red line is not the LAc? please put actual evidence if you have any, not someone's drawing.

Until then this map stands

Zoom out of that map and you'll see it's basically a dot on the dispute. That China claims as it's own without discussion. I mean the PLA is most likely engaged in Gogra HS somehow since it's been declared as such. Either China is making good of that alleged claim that is the size of a dot, or you know... it's just one of these cases.

Xsizor said:

No, but it follows it.
India has in the past protested to Google regarding maps. Indian government also makes requests for correction to Facebook, Twitter and other internet companies.

Any actions that displease the Indian government can carry retribution and harm to the operations in India.

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So why doesn't google simply use the Johnson line, like it does in India?
And no, the lac marked on google is exactly the same as it was two years ago.

twineedle said:

The Chinese claims are clearly marked in yellow. Multiple maps/images have corroborated the one I have posted, none have corroborated Shukla's. You should ask yourself why there is no other map on the internet showing the patrol points at the specific location he has put them.

Simple question. Is there any evidence showing that the red line is not the Indian claim? please put actual evidence if you have any, not someone's drawing.

Until then this map stands

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Are you trying to troll?
You are posting what is supposed to be CLAIM LINES.

Shukla gives a map about PP and LAC.
NOT Claim lines.

(even if we talk about claim line, you aren't attaching the original owner of the map, the date it was created etc...)