You still have not provided any evidence that the map presented on google earth or the very same satellite images you use is incorrect. According to you, when one person says something and ten people say something different, those ten people's claims should be discounted regardless of their testimony.
But the location of pp19 was never teh main point of our discussion. I was arguing that there is no evidence of any buffer zone or even any evidence of changing Indian patrols, since there is no evidence of any Chinese activity outside of that one post. Detresfa, who you yourself posts marks it as 6 kmf from INDIA"S CLAIM LINE. Are you saying he is not creddible?
Here is the image you yourself posted. Now compare it to where the lac is(the actual lac, not the shukla lac which does not apear on any other maps.) It isn't hard considering there are no differing perceptions at the moment. Interestingly, I have noticed you have never marked an lac on your diagrams, probably to help your debunked narrative of Chinese victory/shifting lac. HInt: THe lac (Indian claim line) is about 6km west of the confluence. Surey it shouldn't be hard for you to mark.
Another hint: THe patrol points are a few hundred meters behind the dotted line. The same one in the image posted by
@ougoah
Where exactly they are is debatable, but irrelevant knowing the above.
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In gogra, pp19 is most likely somewhere West of the Red dot at Gogra.
BTW, I do not think it has been mentioned that China has always had a small border outpost there for decades. However, only recently it was upgraded from a small post to a major base, perhaps with some artilery and armor, etc. But if China had always had a small post there, how could India patrol there, as Shukla claimed(even if India claimed it fell behind its lac, which it never did)
But anyway, I do admit I was mistaken to take Shukla's map seriously just for the sake of this discussion, even though they contradict images by detresfa and others. That simply changed the subject of this exchange from evidence of a buffer zone, your initial claim, to an irrelevant debate about the exact locations of patrol points. You still ahve not presented any CLEAR evidence, and the images you have posted contradicted your and Shukla's claims. Although there are differing perceptions elsewhere, the lac at Gogra that both India and CHina recognize is quite clear and has not been shifted, even though you are trying to make it so. Nor have you provided any evidence that google is wrong and that India has not claimed the same lac it has for decades, instead of the one SHukla created out of thin air.
And once again, even if there is a buffer zone, and there will likely be one if/when disengagement is completed, that buffer zone will include Chinese territory like the ones at Pangong and Galwan did, simply because of how close the pps are to the lac. That is simple logic.
