When did VK Singh say India patrolled past f4? Since you are quoting him, show me when he said exactly that.
And he is right. Both sides do regularly violate the lac, at areas where htey hold tactical advantages.
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And he is right. Both sides do regularly violate the lac, at areas where htey hold tactical advantages.
When has India ever had a post past finger 4? India's furthest permanent post is Dhan Singh Thapa, though Inda set up a encampments near finger 4 as a mirror deployment. And China built roads and other infra on pangong since at the latest 2000. That implies China did control the area.
Patrol posts of a foreign nation till a point (permanent or otherwise) means no control and sovereignty over a territory.
Bold : Factually wrong.
Refer previous posts.
I saw the image. The LAC for India has been
(no map key).
Seems to be a new map. The Chinese post is shown at Y junction along with Galwan clash.
The orange would be the old LAC and the green would be the current new one as per Veteran troop commanders who did patrols in the 90s.
That veteran retired troop commander seems speaking the truth.
Here it is for the nth time.
He says and I quote again for the nth time.
"India has transgressed more times than China along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), but the government does not announce it, Union Minister of State for State Transport and Highways V. K. Singh said on Sunday.
Speaking to the media in Madurai, the former Army chief said the border with China has never been demarcated.
China had transgressed many times over the years with its own perception of the LAC. “Similarly, none of you come to know how many times we have transgressed as per our perception. Chinese media does not cover it,” Gen. (retd) Singh said.
“Let me assure you, if China has transgressed 10 times, we must have done it at least 50 times,” he added."
LAC is (sorry was) fluid between F4 and F8. According to Jai Hind goal post movers, it is now F4 when in the past it is between F4 and F8. Deny all you want who cares what worthless stupid Jai hinds think and say.
China has always been behind F8 and after 1962 war, was at most at F8 while India claims F4 to F8 and China was happy to negotiate and settle a firm border somewhere between F4 and F8.
The LAC no matter who and when you ask, is somewhere between F4 and F8. The most recent "shifts" in thinking and identification of LAC is now along F4. That's good for China. In any case, "trespassing" "ingressing" "intruding" beyond LAC means patrolling beyond F4 no matter who you ask and when you ask.
You sure like throwing around the word factually, even though the facys haven't been on your side this thread. Look for yourself, There is clearly a paved road going from FInger 4's foxhole point almost to finger 8. That was theresince around 2000
LOL coming from the guy who was proven wrong about Gogra, Hot Springs, Demchok. And who insists India won more than China at Pangong disengagement.
I get it, you lot were told by the west you're the best and shining example of whatever nonsense they like trashtalking about and how you're equal to China and militarily you are beyond China. You lot like convincing each other of this and when reality shows you that not only are you not a paper tiger, you are a paper cockroach. I get that's frustrating and you Jai Hinds need to bend the truths and distract with meaningless nonsense and bombard narratives with small details that you obfuscate yourself lol.
Whatever loser games are for losers. As long as the record on this forum is set straight with evidence and facts that even the Indian gov and US gov admit to, you can bitch and moan and do your full time troll job all you like.
Thank you for confirming VK SIngh did not reference Pangong. There are multiple areas where there is a difference in perception.
LOL when this cop out is all you can come up with ... okay sure. Let's assume he's talking about Jupiter.
Actually, nobody on this forum has disproven the clear, neutral evidence I have presented. I have only been met with unfounded claims, speculation, and dubious sources, and purposefully disambiguous statements But sure claim whatever you want to make yourself feel better.
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