Ladakh Flash Point

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ougoah

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Actually, nobody on this forum has disproven the clear, neutral evidence I have presented. I have only been met with unfounded claims, speculation, and dubious sources, and purposefully disambiguous statements But sure claim whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

What are you claiming? We've proven you wrong about Demchok and a few other things.

You avoid all decent debate by not even setting and stating clear things.
 

Xizor

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You sure like throwing around the word factually, even though the facys haven't been on your side this thread. Look for yourself, There is clearly a paved road going from FInger 4's foxhole point almost to finger 8. That was theresince around 2000
Yes. I do. What can I say, it has became a habit. You don't help one bit.
You do love going to Google to support your weird claims.

Bold : Along with all the infrastructure? Are you saying all infrastructure existed since 2000?

Has China removed the road as part of disengagement?
 

twineedle

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I saw the image. The LAC for India has been
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(no map key).

Seems to be a new map. The Chinese post is shown at Y junction along with Galwan clash.

The orange would be the old LAC and the green would be the current new one as per Veteran troop commanders who did patrols in the 90s.

That veteran retired troop commander seems speaking the truth.
Do you even know how to read maps? The blue green is the river, while the light green is the Chinese road. The LAC has remained unchanged. Please compare that map with this image.

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Pay specific attention to where the lac is.
 

Xizor

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Actually, nobody on this forum has disproven the clear, neutral evidence I have presented. I have only been met with unfounded claims, speculation, and dubious sources, and purposefully disambiguous statements But sure claim whatever you want to make yourself feel better.
You do like throwing around Clear and Neutral.
But I guess I don't help one bit.

That's some good projection. It's pretty evident you raises claims here, then speculates all to support the Modi-party.
 

Xizor

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Do you even know how to read maps? The blue green is the river, while the light green is the Chinese road. The LAC has remained unchanged. Please compare that map with this image.
Stop posting Google Maps. Seems like you're trigged a bit here.
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Pretty clear.
 
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twineedle

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What are you claiming? We've proven you wrong about Demchok and a few other things.

You avoid all decent debate by not even setting and stating clear things.
When have we even debated Demchok? Now you are deflecting and changing the subject.

You still haven't disproven any of the up to date images of gogra/Hot Springs I have presented, among others.
 

ougoah

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You avoid all decent debate by not even setting and stating clear things.

I'll set some statements to set an example for you to follow.

India got proven worthless and a coward who surrendered - true because it refused to escalate into war despite PLA unprecedented capturing and control of F4 to F8 at Pangong. It was PLA who captured and stayed while IA tried to push it out but failed. PLA seems to have also captured and stayed in other parts of Ladakh dispute at the other two stretches - Depsang/Galwan and Demchok. These are all undeniable facts. No one is saying PLA captured Indian controlled parts. Only disputed stretches... something India was never able to do and hold for negotiation bargaining power.

De-escalation at Pangong came at the price of India needing to retreat behind F3 and staying there. This takes their access to their claim of F4 to F8 away. China in the past constantly asked India to agree to a firm border here with negotiation to settle it somewhere between F4 and F8 which also happens to be the fluid LAC.

India's own four star general is on public record saying India "transgressed LAC" more than 5 times as often as PLA... where he's talking about he didn't specify but come on it's one or all of the three stretches as Ladakh.

India and US both agree that PLA is currently still occupying some portion of disputed stretches at Galwan-Depsang (Gogra) and Demchok.
 

Xizor

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When have we even debated Demchok? Now you are deflecting and changing the subject.

You still haven't disproven any of the up to date images of gogra/Hot Springs I have presented, among others.
Yes, it was debated and analyzed a week ago.

That's why I keep saying

"Refer previous posts"
 
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