Ladakh Flash Point

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twineedle

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Yes I agree. Most Indian media sources have claimed, with evidence, that China is not occupying territory previously controlled by India. As I have been saying all along.
And the lac that currently exists is the same one that has existed for decades, as are the patrol points
 

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Quad nations meeting to announce financing to boost India vaccine output.​


Previously India had proposed to pump money in India by other partners in the framework to undercut China's vaccine campaign.

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Could be the first such action in the economic sphere of Quad. Other then the supply chain initiative.
 

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Yes I agree. Most Indian media sources have claimed, with evidence, that China is not occupying territory previously controlled by India. As I have been saying all along.
And the lac that currently exists is the same one that has existed for decades, as are the patrol points
Bold entire: Wrong.

Am I being shown what you want to believe? If so, its fascinating. To disregard all the things that've been posted.

Refer previous posts. Cope.
 
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twineedle

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The majority of Indian Media has supported India;s narrative, with evidence. Bloggers like Shukla are in the minority. Since Indian media articles written by the likes of them are taken seriously here, by that logic the majority of articles supporting arguing India did not lose territory should be taken seriously. Especially since all the available evidence supports them. Like I said, when one person says something and ten people say something different, that should really question the credibility of teh former.
Guess some members here still haven't come to terms with China's two giant steps back.
 

Xizor

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The majority of Indian Media has supported India;s narrative, with evidence. Bloggers like Shukla are in the minority. Since Indian media articles written by the likes of them are taken seriously here, by that logic the majority of articles supporting arguing India did not lose territory should be taken seriously. Especially since all the available evidence supports them. Like I said, when one person says something and ten people say something different, that should really question the credibility of teh former.
Guess some members here still haven't come to terms with China's two giant steps back.
I've tagged, as per your and other Jai-hinds allegation, a significant number of Indian media houses as being unreliable.
It includes Times of India, which is a newspaper of record.

Some of them Evidences that are nothing more than half truths, distortions or just straight lies with ample effort from Indian government itself. With a military that toes modi-party interests, I'm sure you've a good India win story.
 

twineedle

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The above is why I have avoided quoting Indian media sources. unless I feel it is absolutely necessary. Anything that doesn't go with the "India lost, China captured previously controlled Indian territory" narrative is discredited. Then again, the same applies to non Indian media that doesn't toe that narrative.
doesn't change the fact that the majority of Indian media is contradicting the likes of Shukla. Guess they should be taken seriously.
 

manqiangrexue

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The majority of Indian Media has supported India;s narrative, with evidence. Bloggers like Shukla are in the minority. Since Indian media articles written by the likes of them are taken seriously here, by that logic the majority of articles supporting arguing India did not lose territory should be taken seriously. Especially since all the available evidence supports them. Like I said, when one person says something and ten people say something different, that should really question the credibility of teh former.
If there is no previous record, we may look at evidence that way, but in India's case, where the majority of media and official sources are known to lie about F-16 shootdowns and killing numbers of "terrorists" as well as the direct incidents in this episode as Chinese videos prove, the majority is no longer trustworthy, nor the defeated, outdated, incorrect evidence that they present. Rather, it is the one whose narrative that most closely follows the proven patterns of India making mistakes and then lying to cover up the consequences.
Guess some members here still haven't come to terms with China's two giant steps back.
Well, there is no definition of giant, as most Indians will want to convey anything that China gives them as giant and anything they lost as minor or even irrelevant, but undeniably, compared to China, India is on a conveyor belt going backwards at all times.
 
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ougoah

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The majority of Indian Media has supported India;s narrative, with evidence. Bloggers like Shukla are in the minority. Since Indian media articles written by the likes of them are taken seriously here, by that logic the majority of articles supporting arguing India did not lose territory should be taken seriously. Especially since all the available evidence supports them. Like I said, when one person says something and ten people say something different, that should really question the credibility of teh former.
Guess some members here still haven't come to terms with China's two giant steps back.

India's Modi narrative is summed up as "India has not lost control of any territory it previously had control over".

This is true but that's not what this confrontation is about. It is over disputed territory neither side had control over but both had varying levels of intrusions into and patrols of.
 

Xizor

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India's Modi narrative is summed up as "India has not lost control of any territory it previously had control over".

This is true but that's not what this confrontation is about. It is over disputed territory neither side had control over but both had varying levels of intrusions into and patrols of.
Yes. It's also about being denied patrols to certain regions and creation of buffer zones (that affect both) and where it is created.

Hopefully, the agreement stands for the time being. I'm fully in support of Disengagement.
 
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