JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[SteelBird]

surprisingly very similar colour scheme and the size is quite similar too

To my eyes, the size of the J-10A compared to JF-17 is just like the size of the JF-17 compared to the J-7.

 

[Blackstone]

Asif-

Do you or your buddies know if JF-17s were employed in the latest PAF airstrikes against militants?

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Pakistani fighter jets have carried out air strikes against militant hideouts, killing dozens of fighters, officials in the north-west of the country say.

The strikes were in the mountainous Dehgan area in the North Waziristan tribal district, a stronghold for Taliban and al-Qaeda-linked militants.

Uzbek militants were targeted, amid reports that fighters from Uzbekistan took part in an attack on Karachi airport which began last Sunday.

No exact casualty figures were given.

"The strikes were carried out based on confirmed reports about the presence of Uzbek and other militants in the area," an official said.

It is the second set of strikes in the region this week, days after the airport attack claimed by the Pakistani Taliban, which killed at least 30 people.

The group said the assault was in revenge for the killing of their leader last year.

Correspondents say the recent hostilities have all but destroyed a tentative peace process between the Pakistani Taliban and the government.

Pakistan has been fighting an Islamist insurgency for more than a decade, with the Pakistani Taliban the main militant grouping.

The Pakistan government began peace talks with the Pakistani Taliban in March, but there was little progress and the violence has continued.

 

[Deino]

Hmmmm ???

Myanmar looks to purchase the Xiaolong from China

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Through introducing technology from China and Pakistan, Myanmar plans to produce FC-1/JF-17 Xiaolong/Thunder multirole fighters domestically for its air force, reports the Yangon-based Myanmar Times.

The Myanmar Air Force has 23,000 pilots and ground personnel. With 10 major air force bases, it currently operates 32 Russian-built MiG-29B and MiG-29SE fighters, 25 Chinese-built J-7M fighters, 21 Chinese built Q-5 attackers and 16 trainers. In addition, it also has nine Mi-35 attack helicopters and more than 90 other types of helicopters. Chinese military aircraft have become very popular among the military of Myanmar in recent years, according to the report.

The air force has been looking to purchase a license from China or Pakistan to produce its own Xiaolong fighters, according to the report. Designed jointly by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, the FC-1/JF-17 fighter is capable of carrying air-to-air missiles including the PL-5EII, PL-9C and PL-12. The C-802A anti-ship missile can also be equipped when the Myanmar Air Force needs to provide air support to the nation's naval forces in combat.

When facing an enemy aircraft in close combat, the Xiaolong can attack its target with its Russian-built Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 twin-barreled 23 mm autocannon. The Pakistan Air Force is currently the only air force in the world operating Xiaolong. About 54 JF-17s have been produced in Pakistan for the air force. Other countries in Southeast Asia like Bangladesh could be potential consumers of Xiaolong fighters in the near future.

Would be nice ... even if I think the "source" might be a problem.

Deino

 

[thunderchief]

Do you or your buddies know if JF-17s were employed in the latest PAF airstrikes against militants?

According to various sources on internet , answer is no. So far, PAF uses only F-16s and Mirages against TTP .

 

[Zahid]

According to various sources on internet , answer is no. So far, PAF uses only F-16s and Mirages against TTP .

I would like to disagree. The correct answer is "maybe". For some pretty obvious reasons, PAF would not issue a categorical statement on this matter, nor would any source on internet be able to tell for sure. The ambiguity is there for a reason. It might be a few months at least before we can be certain about this.

 

[thunderchief]

I would like to disagree. The correct answer is "maybe". For some pretty obvious reasons, PAF would not issue a categorical statement on this matter, nor would any source on internet be able to tell for sure. The ambiguity is there for a reason. It might be a few months at least before we can be certain about this.

Well, maybe if you want that way, but so far no concrete proof.

 

[Blackstone]

And if the PAF isn't using JF-17s in combat, even though they've had them for years, what does it say about the "capable" plane's readiness? Maybe there's a good reason why it's not selling well.

 

[plawolf]

And if the PAF isn't using JF-17s in combat, even though they've had them for years, what does it say about the "capable" plane's readiness? Maybe there's a good reason why it's not selling well.

The JF17 blk 1s are air superiority fighters with very limited ground attack capabilities, that is nothing new or unusual as every modern multirole fighter entered service as air superiority fighters first, and had ground attack capabilities added later.

Unless the Pakistani Taliban starts deploying weaponised flying carpets, there isn't much the JF17 Blk 1s currently in service could do that the likes of the F16 blk 52 couldn't do better.

Would you conclude that there are questions about the F22's capabilities or state of readiness because they were not used in Iraq or Afghanistan?

 

[Blackstone]

The JF17 blk 1s are air superiority fighters with very limited ground attack capabilities, that is nothing new or unusual as every modern multirole fighter entered service as air superiority fighters first, and had ground attack capabilities added later.

Unless the Pakistani Taliban starts deploying weaponised flying carpets, there isn't much the JF17 Blk 1s currently in service could do that the likes of the F16 blk 52 couldn't do better.

Would you conclude that there are questions about the F22's capabilities or state of readiness because they were not used in Iraq or Afghanistan?

So the Chinese and Pakistanis have been trying to sell an air-superiority niche 4th Gen fighter to Third World countries that want multi-role fighters at affordable prices? No wonder they're not selling.

 

[thunderchief]

So the Chinese and Pakistanis have been trying to sell an air-superiority niche 4th Gen fighter to Third World countries that want multi-role fighters at affordable prices? No wonder they're not selling.

Main selling point of JF-17 is affordable replacement for Mig-21/J-7 . Multirole (i.e. ground attack with PGM ) is added benefit, some countries could afford that, others could not.