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chuck731

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Re: JMSDF Akizuki Class DDG (19DD AEGIS-like)

I noticed the new JMSDF ships have once again returned to the distinctive undulating sheer line first seen on pre-WWII IJN warships.

Undulating sheerline is the practice of calculating the bending stress in the hull, and structural depth required to counter it, precisely, and varying the deck height and sheerline continuous along the ship's length to achieve the necessary strength and freeboard at absolute minimum structural weight. You can see this practice prominantly carried out on all IJN cruisers, destroyers, aircraft carriers and battleships built between 1920 and 1940.

AFAIK, no other country has ever found undulating sheer line worthwhile before or since, yet JMSDF have gone back to the distinctive IJN ship building tradition and readopted the undulating sheerline.
 

Blitzo

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Re: JMSDF Akizuki Class DDG (19DD AEGIS-like)

Ah...I see that now.

This was anounced just a few weeks ago that NX selected the Sea Cepter for the upgrade to their two Anzacs.

I am surprised they did not go with the ESSM, since their Mk-41s and their fire control would all have been a very easy path.

but the Sea cepter is going to be a great missile, and the UK will be unsing them on the Tyep 23 frigates after 2016, and then later on the Type 26 frigates too.

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I believe HMMZS te mana and te kana are both equipped with ESSM, actually.

That is to say sea ceptor will be replacing ESSM!
I believe this is due to sea ceptor's active guided versus ESSM's semi active guided configurations, which allows sea ceptor to simultaneously more targets without need for sharing illumination. ESSM of course has longer range, but I wonder if the RNZN's frigates are even able to make full use of it due to weak radars.


Edit: I may be wrong regarding ESSM already equipping te kaha and te mana, various places say different things. Certainly it would make more sense if they were only equipped with legacy sea sparrow.
 
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Re: Japan's ATD-X/F-3 Stealth Fighter development, News, Pics, & Videos

Would be fun to name the J-20 wu xin, as though to reference the split between the Southern and Northern schools of Ch'an Buddhism...

The first chapter of the Platform Sutra tells the well-known apocryphal story of the Dharma-transmission from Hongren to Hui-neng. Hongren asked his students to...

... write me a stanza (gatha) [...] He who understands what the Essence of Mind is will be given the robe (the insignia of the Patriarchate) and the Dharma (the ultimate teaching of the Chán school), and I shall make him the Sixth Patriarch.

Only Shenxiu wrote a poem, anonymously on the wall in the middle of the night.[5] It stated:[6]
身是菩提樹, The body is a Bodhi tree,
心如明鏡臺。 The mind a standing mirror bright.
時時勤拂拭, At all times polish it diligently,
勿使惹塵埃。 And let no dust alight.

After having read this poem aloud to him, Hui-neng asked an officer to write another gatha on the wall for him, next to Shenxiu's, which stated:[7]
菩提本無樹, Bodhi is fundamentally without any tree;
明鏡亦非臺。 The bright mirror is also not a stand.
本來無一物, Fundamentally there is not a single thing —
何處惹塵埃。 Where could any dust be attracted?

Hongren read the stanza, and received Huineng in his abode, where he expounded the Diamond Sutra to him. When he came to the passage, "to use the mind yet be free from any attachment," Huineng came to great awakening. He exclaimed,

How amazing that the self nature is originally pure! How amazing that the self nature is unborn and undying! How amazing that the self nature is inherently complete! How amazing that the self nature neither moves nor stays! How amazing that all dharmas come from this self nature!

Hongren then passed the robe and begging bowl as a symbol of the Dharma Seal of Sudden Enlightenment to Huineng.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: JMSDF Akizuki Class DDG (19DD AEGIS-like)

I believe HMMZS te mana and te kana are both equipped with ESSM, actually.

That is to say sea ceptor will be replacing ESSM!
I believe that NZ currently has the latest version of the Sea Sparrow.

The Aussies will be upgrading their Anzacs to the ESSM, and many expected NZ to follow suite. But NZ has chosen to go with the Sea Ceptor.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Japan's PM Warns China On Use Of Force As Jets Scrambled
Oct. 27, 2013 - 01:40PM | By HARUMI OZAWA, Agence France-Presse
TOKYO — Japan’s leader warned China on Sunday against forcibly changing the regional balance of power, as reports said Tokyo had scrambled fighter jets in response to Chinese military aircraft flying near Okinawa.

Verbal skirmishing between Asia’s two biggest economies, who dispute ownership of an island chain, escalated as Beijing warned Tokyo that any hostile action in the skies against Chinese drones would be construed as an “act of war.”

“We will express our intention as a state not to tolerate a change in the status quo by force. We must conduct all sorts of activities such as surveillance and intelligence for that purpose,” Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in an address to the military.

“The security environment surrounding Japan is becoming increasingly severe. This is the reality,” he said. “You will have to completely rid yourselves of the conventional notion that just the existence of a defense force could act as a deterrent.”

Abe presided over an inspection of the military at which a US amphibious assault vehicle was displayed for the first time, an apparent sign of Japan’s intention to strengthen its ability to protect remote islands.

The defense ministry plans to create a special amphibious unit to protect the southern islands and retake them in case of an invasion.

“There are concerns that China is attempting to change the status quo by force, rather than by rule of law,” Abe earlier told the Wall Street Journal in an interview following a series of summits this month with regional leaders.

“But if China opts to take that path, then it won’t be able to emerge peacefully,” he said in the interview published Saturday.

“So it shouldn’t take that path, and many nations expect Japan to strongly express that view. And they hope that as a result, China will take responsible action in the international community,” Abe added.

Kyodo News reported that Japan scrambled jets Sunday for the third successive day in response to four Chinese military aircraft flying over international waters near the Okinawa island chain.

Two Y8 early-warning aircraft and two H6 bombers flew from the East China Sea to the Pacific Ocean and back again but did not violate Japan’s airspace, it said.

The Japanese defense ministry was not immediately available for confirmation.

Japan’s military is on increased alert as Tokyo and Beijing pursue a war of words over the disputed islands in the East China Sea that lie between Okinawa and Taiwan.

On Saturday China responded angrily after a report said Japan had drafted plans to shoot down foreign drones that encroach on its airspace if warnings to leave are ignored.

Tokyo drew up the proposals after a Chinese military drone entered Japan’s air defense identification zone near the disputed islands in the East China Sea last month, Kyodo said.

“We would advise relevant parties not to underestimate the Chinese military’s staunch resolve to safeguard China’s national territorial sovereignty,” China’s defense ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said in comments posted on the ministry’s website.

“If Japan takes enforcement measures such as shooting down aircraft, as it says it will, that would constitute a serious provocation, an act of war of sorts, and we would have to take firm countermeasures, and all consequences would be the responsibility of the side that caused the provocation.”

Tokyo and Beijing both claim the small uninhabited islands in the East China Sea. Japan administers them and calls them the Senkakus. China refers to the islands as the Diaoyus.

One of Abe’s first decisions as prime minister was to increase the defense budget for the first time in 11 years.

Tokyo also plans to hold a major air and sea exercise next month to bolster its ability to protect its remote islands.

In the Wall Street Journal interview, Abe said Japan had become too inward-looking over the past 15 years, but as it regains economic strength “we’d like to contribute more to making the world a better place.”

The Journal said he made it clear that one way Japan would “contribute” would be countering China in Asia.
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China criticizes 'self-deceiving' Japanese politicians
4:32am EDT
BEIJING (Reuters) - Japanese politicians are being provocative and are deceiving themselves about a territorial dispute, China's Foreign Ministry said on Monday, a day after Japan's prime minister said it was ready to be more assertive towards China.
Sino-Japanese ties have been overshadowed for years by what China says has been Japan's refusal to admit to atrocities committed by Japanese soldiers in China between 1931 and 1945.
But relations have been further strained for months because of a dispute over tiny islands in the East China Sea, known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe also told his troops on Sunday that Japan would not tolerate the use of force to change the region's status quo, an expression used by Japanese politicians and security experts to refer to what they see as China's aggressive maritime expansion.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying, asked about Abe's comments, said Japanese leaders had been repeatedly making "provocative" remarks.
"This once again shows that Japanese politicians are deceiving themselves with their arrogance and guilty conscience," she told a daily news briefing.
Ties between Asia's two largest economies deteriorated sharply after Japan bought three of the disputed East China Sea islets from a private owner in September 2012, sparking protests and boycotts of Japanese goods across China.
Hua said that Japan was to blame for upsetting the status quo over the islands.
"Japan's unilateral action on the Diaoyu islands from the start has been illegal and void. China will never accept it and will firmly oppose it. Everyone can see that it is Japan who has broken the status quo on the Diaoyu islands," she said.
Patrol ships from both countries have been shadowing each other near the islets, raising fears that an accidental collision or other unintended incident could develop into a clash.
"NO NEED FOR FUSS"
China is also at odds with several South East Asian states contesting its claims to large swathes of the South China Sea.
Abe is seen as a hawkish nationalist who wishes to revise a post-war pacifist constitution drafted by the United States and to strengthen Japan's defenses.
China has taken issue with a Japanese media report saying Abe had approved a policy for Japan to shoot down foreign drones that ignore warnings to leave its airspace.
China's Defence Ministry warned Japan not to underestimate China's resolve to take whatever measures necessary to protect itself.
Chinese aircraft had a right to overfly the East China Sea, Hua said.
"Chinese military planes conducting normal exercises and fly overs in the East China Sea completely accords with international law and practice. The relevant parties need not make a fuss or a mountain out of a molehill."
China's official Xinhua news agency said that Chinese naval exercises in the Western Pacific had been had been "disturbed" by an unnamed foreign party.
"Foreign military vessels and reconnaissance aircraft remained in the exercise area for an undue time monitoring Chinese activity in the close distance and seriously disturbing the naval drill," it said, without giving the exact location of the drills.
(Reporting by Michael Martina; Writing by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Robert Birsel)
 

Jeff Head

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On the other side of the devide
Articel about Japan Scrambling Jets said:
On Saturday China responded angrily after a report said Japan had drafted plans to shoot down foreign drones that encroach on its airspace if warnings to leave are ignored.

China’s defense ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said, “If Japan takes enforcement measures such as shooting down aircraft, as it says it will, that would constitute a serious provocation, an act of war of sorts, and we would have to take firm countermeasures, and all consequences would be the responsibility of the side that caused the provocation.”
Any nation would shoot a UAV down if a foreign surveillance drone invaded their airspace and then ignored all wrnings to leave.

Of course the rub comes over airspace of disputed territory...like Islands. I am pretty sure that is what we are talking about here.
 

Blitzo

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It should be noted that China hasn't actually sent military aircraft into the disputed airspace. There have been incursions with prop driven Y-12s by the CMS, but all recent military "fly bys" have been careful not to intrude into the disputed airspace.

However, as China's air force and navy grows more modern they will eventually start to patrol and do surveillance further from the coast, and that means flying or sailing between Japanese islands and yes, the disputed diaoyu islands too. That will unsettle japan, and the US as well.

Personally I feel Abe's warning that china "shouldn't seek to change the status quo by force" is a little confusing. Is he talking about territorial disputes or the larger regional power balance?
Because if it's the former, China has actually been very coy in its strategy and has only deployed unarmed coast guard and CMS cutters to the flashpoints, never military craft. If anything the recent ASEAN discussions have dialled the tension back a few small degrees and china looks willing to be more amicable. If Abe is talking about the regional power balance, well China hasn't actually made overtures that they actually want war of any kind. They are rapidly modernizing their navy and air force, and I'm wondering if that is what Abe sees as a provocation in of itself.
 
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Equation

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It should be noted that China hasn't actually sent military aircraft into the disputed airspace. There have been incursions with prop driven Y-12s by the CMS, but all recent "fly bys" have been careful not to intrude into even the disputed airspace.

However, the problem is as China's air force and navy grows more modern they will eventually start to patrol and do surveillance further from the coast, and that means flying or sailing between Japanese islands and yes, the disputed diaoyu islands too.
Personally I feel Abe's warning that china "shouldn't seek to change the status quo by force" is a little confusing. Is he talking about territorial disputes or the larger regional power balance?
Because if it's the former, China has actually been very coy about its plan and has only deployed unarmed coast guard and CMS cutters to the flashpoints, never military craft. If it's talking about the regional power balance, well China hasn't actually made overtures that they actually want war of any kind. They are rapidly modernizing their navy and air force, and I'm wondering if that is what Abe sees a provocation in of itself.


Abe and some of his far right nationalist idiots still thinks the status quo that China should NEVER upgrade their air force and navy regardless of the time.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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I don't think Abe is as far right as you guys like to make him out to be. His positions is more or less the result of pressure being placed on him. Japan has a nation has been forced to make groveling and begging forgiveness as its relations as its foreign affairs.
even today china insists on the same Abe wants to try and step out of the old shadow and build a solid state but the Chinese dragon wants to get a little pay back. Abe's worried that the history of world war two would be repeated. But instead of Japan repeating a banzi across the pacific Abe is worried that The PRC will. Abe himself pointed out that the sdf increased its budget by 3% this year well the PLA did the same by 10%.
 

mr.bean

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I don't think Abe is as far right as you guys like to make him out to be. His positions is more or less the result of pressure being placed on him. Japan has a nation has been forced to make groveling and begging forgiveness as its relations as its foreign affairs.
even today china insists on the same Abe wants to try and step out of the old shadow and build a solid state but the Chinese dragon wants to get a little pay back. Abe's worried that the history of world war two would be repeated. But instead of Japan repeating a banzi across the pacific Abe is worried that The PRC will. Abe himself pointed out that the sdf increased its budget by 3% this year well the PLA did the same by 10%.

japan just being a drama queen and begging for more US assistance. all that talk of shooting down Chinese UAV is just for his domestic audience because the Chinese HAVE NEVER SENT ANY UAV INTO JAPANESE AIRSPACE NOR ANY DISPUTED AIRSPACE. it's just cheap anti china propaganda. china doesn't need to use force, all it has to do is send UNARMED coast guard ships to patrol the DYT islands and play with the Japanese as much as they want. this is a power game and china has lots of time to play it out. the Japanese finger pointing at the Chinese defense budget is pure hogwash, the japanese had the 2nd biggest defence spending for how many years? was it 2 or 3 decades?
 
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