Japan Earthquake

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bluewater2012

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Re: Earthquake in Japan - the result of top-secret of nuclear testing?

Well, the whole Fukushima nuclear disaster fiasco, one can only ask...why else would the Japanese government repeatedly reject / delay help from even American (supposely the closest ally) experts on site?? To deliver the nuclear coolants, or even rudimentary inspection?

This could be one of the many reasons, "The CIA has reported that Japan’s nuclear power program was not limited to the peaceful production of electrical power. The program had its roots in a secret weapons program that caused the CIA to conclude as far back as 1964 that Japan could assemble within months a nuclear weapon.

Because of the Japanese public’s fear of nuclear weapons, the various subsequent Japanese governments have kept the program secret and have repeatedly denied its existence when news organizations made inquiries."

I also heard of other conspiracy theories where the U.S. carrier that ran away was actually helping the Japanese remove their atomic weapons.

I hoped the Japanese learned from this radioactive disaster to never posses nuclear weapons in the future. Only Japan I would imagine would dare use nuke weapons to confront with China given its small size and historical conflicts. Hope this a good lesson learned to shape for a better peaceful future between the two countries.
 

bd popeye

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I also heard of other conspiracy theories where the U.S. carrier that ran away was actually helping the Japanese remove their atomic weapons.

What carrier ran away? Ran away from what?? Prove it...please
 

advill

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Real Nonsence - Trying to BASH Japan when the country is suffering. Typical stupidity as it is difficult to hide nuclear weapons these days.
 

bd popeye

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I also heard of other conspiracy theories where the U.S. carrier that ran away was actually helping the Japanese remove their atomic weapons.

bluewater you need to substantiate your allegation.

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kwaigonegin

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Looks like Tokyo Electric Power may be wiped out:

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Let this be a harsh lesson on cutting corners on safety with a nuclear reactor.

I think that's a harsh statement in itself. Lets not forget this plant was built over 40 years ago with whatever code and safety regulation they had then.. I do not believe any corners were cut!! and it was actually 48 FT waves that came crashing down on it.
Short of gutting EVERY plant in Japan and built new asteroid/Godzilla resistant plants there's absolutely nothing Japan could've done.
Your statement is equivalent to an Al-Queda operative accusing a car manufacturer for cutting corners because it didn't hold up to a hellfire strike by a predator drone.
 

Hendrik_2000

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I think that's a harsh statement in itself. Lets not forget this plant was built over 40 years ago with whatever code and safety regulation they had then.. I do not believe any corners were cut!! and it was actually 48 FT waves that came crashing down on it.
Short of gutting EVERY plant in Japan and built new asteroid/Godzilla resistant plants there's absolutely nothing Japan could've done.
Your statement is equivalent to an Al-Queda operative accusing a car manufacturer for cutting corners because it didn't hold up to a hellfire strike by a predator drone.

Yes they could by not extending the licence of the plant . The standard life of nuclear power plant is 30 years. If the plant is outdated, they should not renew the licence. That is how Germany did it.

Ironicaly the stricken plant was due for mothballed .But due to such close relationship between Japan nuclear industry and their regulatory body . They keep renewing the plant licence.

Like in US , Japan nuclear industry executive move back and forth beetween industry and regulatory body

Were this accident happened in China , You could hear the accusation of malfeasance ,corruption, dereliction of duty etc
 
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solarz

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http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/japan-earthquake-10-5530.html

I'm sure you guys have seen the above link already. This is crazy, the Fukushima accident is now on par with Chernobyl! Why was the media trying so hard to downplay the risks in the early days of the incident? Why did Japan not devote more resources into stopping this? Or ask for outside help if they did not have enough resources?

I agree with Hendrik: had this happened in China, every single news article on it would contain the word "corruption". When it happens in Japan, Western Media tries to downplay it.

I think this tragedy also shows just how poorly, despite their vast wealth, the Japanese are prepared for major disasters. Look at the 2008 Szechuan Earthquake, and the race against time to drain the quake lakes. The PLA stepped up to the game, while the Japanese dropped the ball on Fukushima.
 

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I'm getting real tired of you fellows whining about western news reports about China. What if I whined about all the biased news I hear about the west? I'd be whining 24/7 Get over yourselves.. China's in the big time now..

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solarz

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I'm getting real tired of you fellows whining about western news reports about China. What if I whined about all the biased news I hear about the west? I'd be whining 24/7 Get over yourselves.. China's in the big time now..

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If you think that there is no deliberate intention to smear any and every piece of news coming out of China, then you obviously haven't paid attention to the 2008 Tibet Riots.

The stories I link below are personal, first-hand experiences:

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I attended the rally along with a few friends. In fact, I pretty much followed the organization of the rally on Chinese BBSes in the weeks before it. There were more than just Chinese students at the rally. There were landed immigrants and naturalized and even second generation Chinese Canadians. I saw people bringing in their entire family.

The slogans were peaceful and positive, such as "We love China", "No to Riots". The people were civilized. One young man got arrested because, get this: he tried to defend the Chinese flag from an unprovoked attack by Tibetan Separatists. I saw this with my own eyes, and there are photos on the internet to prove it.

All of the above, I saw with my own eyes. When I got home, however, I saw instead the following pieces of "journalism":

article1 said:
The rally with flag-waving Chinese students hurling insults against Tibetans put a black mark on Toronto’s popular Dundas Square yesterday.

Touted as a gathering to promote “anti-violence”, a throng of about 1,000 students chanted “Dalai Lama die there” to a small counter protest of Tibetan protesters who had gathered across the street.

This article is filled with venomous, outright lies. Nothing much needs to be said about it.


article2 said:
Organized by an ad hoc group of Chinese students in Toronto – many of whom are studying here on visas – the peaceful rally urged Canadians to support a unified China.

And students and speakers denied charges, made at an earlier pro-Tibet protest in front of the Chinese consulate on St. George St., that the Chinese government promoted the event at Yonge-Dundas Square.

article3 said:
"I think it's a scam, I think it's a shame," said activist Dora Nipp. "They are visa students, and they are students who are being controlled by the Chinese Consulate here. They were down in Chinatown buying flags because that's what they're told to do."

You would think that big, mainstream news agencies like the Toronto Star and CTV would know that it's the Canadian government who issues those visas, not the Chinese government! Why was this simple fact not pointed out to those Tibetan Separatist commentators?

Finally, I'm well aware that bias exists in every news source. The problem is, while Dems and Republicans each have their mouthpiece, China has no voice in the West. Do you think Fox News can get away with the kind of outright lies and misleading reporting on Obama that we saw in the 3 articles I linked? Keep in mind that those articles are NOT commentaries or opinion pieces!

That is why we, overseas Chinese, must act as a counter-weight and point out the BS when we see it.
 
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